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Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:10 pm
If you've got questions--we've got answers.
[ But First, READ THE SUBMISSION GUIDELINES:
http://www.imagecomics.com/submissions.php - B ]
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Erik Larsen
Publisher
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Oakland, CA
Erik@savagedragon.com
www.imagecomics.com
www.savagedragon.com |
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:27 pm
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JesterPepper wrote: |
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Do you ever
keep really bad submissions, just to laugh at them? If so,
scans? |
Now that would just be mean.
And to answer your first question--no--but I did take a few home to show
my seven year old that we really have
received submission that weren't drawn as well as he draws.

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Read Erik's answers chronologically to your
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(To Be Added Soon!)
General
Format
Genre
Style
Turnarounds
Conventions
Feedback
Payment
Fees
Interviews
PR and Ads
Pencilling
Inking
Coloring
Lettering
Covers
Location
Letters Page
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:42 pm
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dragonfollower wrote: |
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I just had
a question about turn-around time for hearing back on
submissions. Is there any sort of estimate on how long it
usually takes? |
No.
We get to stuff when we have time to get to it. If you happen to get
something in that day--it can take next to no time--otherwise it can be
a bit of a wait. Our highest priority is getting books out not wading
through the slush pile.
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:58 am
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Bulletproof wrote: |
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Maybe I
should rephrase my question...
For example, I know of someone who has a great idea for a new
comic series and would like to submit his idea, but he can't
draw. Would he need someone to draw his minimum five pages of
the comic and also include his story in the submission? Because
from what I understand, you can't just submit a story or new
idea, you need art to accompany that idea correct?
I know this may sound a bit elementary, but I'm just a little
uncertain. |
If he can't draw--there won't BE a book. We take on books--not
individual creators. We don't "buy ideas" and we don't find artists for
folks that need one (okay, if you're Alan Moore or Frank Miller--we'll
find you an artist but we CAN'T do that for
everybody that needs an
artist--it's simply unworkable).
If a writer can't find a decent artist to collaborate with--he's
screwed.
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:02 am
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original JAM wrote: |
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I have a
hypothetical question! OK, a hypothetical question on steroids!
What if I submiit a book,.. and for some crazy reason Image
accepts it!
And the book goes through the levels, and finally it's out there
on the books stands, and peolpe like it.(I told you on steroids
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So, it sells out again and again! OK,..and the plans are to put
out at least five of them,... now what?
The Creators of the book obligated to promote the book, go to
cons, talk to Newsrama, go to interviews or and answer interview
questions are the Creators obligated to do all the that kind of
interactions!
What does happen once(if) your book is accepted! Hypothetically
speaking, of course! |
It's entirely up to that person. Nobody is forced to be interviewed on
Newsarama if they don't want to be. The only thing that's expected of a
creator is that they get their work done. It's up to them if they want
to go to conventions--not all creators do.
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:16 pm
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VictorC wrote: |
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I know that
Image has the best deal out there for creator owned projects.
This stems from the fact that (from what I’ve read and heard)
you get signed, pay a set amount, and after that any proceeds
are considered your profit to split between you and the people
who worked on your book. Two questions:
Are there any other hidden type fees included or is it literally
only a one time fee/payment and that’s it? |
The money you receive is the profits--it's after expenses--things like
printing and whatnot--but there are no hidden costs that we profit from.
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If you end
up selling your idea as a movie (as most comics are now
becoming) does Image have any say in where it goes and do they
get any $$$ from the production? Also, are there restrictions on
how long you have to wait before selling the book (i.e. – you
publish a book and Image owns the option for “X” amount of years
before you can outright sell it to a studio)?
I remembered questions like this being answered in the previous
board, but I don’t remember the details. |
We don't participate in any movie profits in any way. Our deal is
strictly for comics. You can do toys, movies, underoos and Happy Meal®
and we don't get a dime from it.
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:30 pm
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hey eric i
have a question for you. say i submit my book ( a 4 issue mini )
and image takes it on, how fast do i have to turn the books
around? do we just hit the groud running when you say yes and
start pumping them out (or can the art team say " we need this
much time to make it hot!" and then promote after an agreed upon
time line)? I'm asking because i'm a comic artist with a full
time day job. if my book is chosen...i'd still be at my day job.
so i'm just tring to see what kinda work load i'll be getting
myself into. thanks for your time.
wes |
You can do it however you'd like--it's your book, after all. Just
remember--you don't get paid until AFTER the books come out. We don't
pay page rates up front
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:22 am
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rbr wrote: |
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Are
there any other hidden type fees included or is it
literally only a one time fee/payment and that’s it? |
Just to clarify -- and hopefully Erik can confirm -- creators
don't pay Image a "fee" except in very special circumstances:
Image takes printing and other costs out of money made from
sales of the book (with the remainder going to the creators).
Whatever "fees" there are are invisible -- you never have to pay
Image directly. |
Image DOES take a fee--but it's off the back
end--it's not as though creators ever cut us a check. Our fee is
collected and the rest goes to the creators. We couldn't stay in
business if no money at all was coming in, y'know...
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:24 am
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SGeabhart wrote: |
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does Image
obtain full page ads in Previews for all of the books they
publish? |
For first issues--yes. But often we'll have books share pages with other
titles.
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It's cool
to know there is a company that is upfront about all of their
policies...thanks for all of the info in this thread Mr. Larsen. |
That what I'm here for...
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:26 am
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nick filardi wrote: |
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Erik- are
you sad theres no art/submissions in this thread yet? becuase i
am. |
Not at all.
Not everybody is up for public humiliation. The vast majority of the
pitches we receive aren't given the green light. I can understand why
creators wouldn't want to be turned down in a public forum.
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Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:06 pm
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Wolfman wrote: |
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I know this
thread says submissions, but are you allowed to submitt 1 off
drawings of your own creations? Full character sketches etc Does
Image still look at this kinda stuff or is just purely finished
comic material that they're interested in? |
A single drawing simply isn't enough information to go by. Unless you
can produce at least five pages of sequential artwork--you're really not
ready to be doing comics.
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Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:17 pm
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DaveAlvarez wrote: |
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I once
submitted my work as a 'collected edition of my strips' to Image
three years ago. I got an e-mail from Jim Valentino telling me
that it was not the right moment for that kind of project. After
a while, a friend of mine told me that maybe it was because
comics as a 'collection of strips', in this case, are not done
unless they are requested by editors themselves just like PVP
for example. Is that true or is it another 'urban legend of
comics'? |
Sounds like nonsense to me.
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Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:39 pm
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JesseMunoz wrote: |
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I know that
there is no set answer for this question, but how long on
average does it take to look at a submission after Image has
recieved it. Meaning does it sit in a pile of submission for a
while or is it gone through pretty quickly? |
It can take any kind of time--it can take a few days--it can take a
month or more. It really depends on how much other stuff we've got going
on.
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Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:00 pm
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I’ve read
in previous posts that you should NEVER submit a proposal for a
book if that artist isn’t signed on to complete the initial run.
However, the project I plan on submitting is an OGN designed to
look like a four issue TPB (the reason is that, if I don’t get
picked up, this format works best for me in self-publishing).
The problem is that my artist was just picked up by Hasbro to
work on some of their advertising projects. He’ll be able to
complete the first issue, but won’t be around for the remaining
three.
Would it be possible to submit his section and my script or
should I wait until I have the second artist lined up (to show
you how the rest of the book should look)? |
You should wait until you have the second artist lined up (to show me
how the rest of the book would look).
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Also, is
this even a wise decision? He is a week away from finishing a
previous project and then he is going to start on mine, should I
just cut all strings and keep the book consistent or roll the
dice on having a book with various styles (similar to “New
X-men”) - just curious. |
I'd wait until you can have an artist commit to doing the entire
project.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:04 pm
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Hopeless Dent wrote: |
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Erik,
What role can convention appearances play in the submission
process? I realize creators and publishers are busy at cons and
their time is valuable, but is it at all feasible for aspiring
Image creators to give you submission material at conventions?
Are there advantages/disadvantages to face to face pitches? |
Don't hand me a submission at a convention and expect to get a response.
We have to haul a LOT of books and comics and Homerun® Pies not to
mention our own personal items around at these shows. Submissions are
often lost or simply thrown away to make room for more important items.
If you want to make sure that we receive your pitch--mail it in.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:06 pm
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nath devlin wrote: |
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i ve been
following this thread for a bit and had to throw in my question,
thats if you get to dealing with image does there have to be
interviews and meetings to do? |
No.
Nothing that can't be done through the mail.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:10 pm
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nashya wrote: |
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This is a
question only Erik can answer. Mr. Larsen, considering Flight
has done well as a full color graphic novel/anthology, how well
do you think an ongoing story in graphic novel format would work
out? As in, it's never released in monthly issue format. It's
something I'm interested in for my comic.
Next question, I hope this hasn't been asked a million times,
but how many pages would be allowed in a monthly comic? Since
it's creator owned, I could go over 22 pages worth of story
right? I read once, you posted this yourself, that Savage Dragon
was almost what... 30 something pages a month? You might have
said more. What if I wanted to do 42 pages, or even 60? As long
as it's more story does it matter? Most of my individual issues
to my comic are 24 pages.
One more thing, can you order Image books through Amazon? |
You can order Image trades through Amazon--not the individual comics,
however.
And formats are always something that can be worked out. We're flexible.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:43 pm
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JesseMunoz wrote: |
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gut-rot wrote: |
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hmm...i think what im thinkin up'll be green light then.
thanks man. |
Wow, Thats pretty confident. |
Especially considering that there are nine punctuation, spelling or
grammatical errors in that single post.

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Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:14 am
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gut-rot wrote: |
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haha! shit!
didn't mean the green light from image. i ment that with the
legal stuff, that i wouldnt get in trouble with it. and when it
comes to spelling hell, thats what spell check's for.just dont
pay so much attention to it when i post and things like that.
did you get what i was asking though, man? |
Not at all.
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:52 pm
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drazen wrote: |
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erik I have
a question to ask,first to say that I ain't that good at english
'cause I'm still learning it
(another country another language you know)
now the question:
what if a guy from another country(from Europe) send you few
pages(fully coloured) and the other stuffs and you like 'em,HOW
ARE YOU GOING TO WORK WITH 'EM? |
A lot of people work via their computers. Files can be uploaded and so
forth. It's not that difficult.
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:56 pm
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gut-rot wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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gut-rot wrote: |
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haha! shit! didn't
mean the green light from image. i ment that
with the legal stuff, that i wouldnt get in
trouble with it. and when it comes to spelling
hell, thats what spell check's for.just dont pay
so much attention to it when i post and things
like that.
did you get what i was asking though, man? |
Not at all. |
allright, forget what i asked you then. just answer me this, if
you get a submision and you reject it, when you write back to
the person tellling them it got rejected, do you also tell them
what they should do to try and fix it up? |
No.
If I reject something--it's too far from publishable to fix with a few
suggestions. If something is close--I'll offer a few suggestions to help
it get closer--otherwise--I simply don't have that kind of time.
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Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:44 pm
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This is a situtaion that is very on the
line.
1) Anyone who is out there trying to push there own book is
doing so for 1 or 2 reasons...in this order.
A) for the love of it, and
B) to get paid.
Now with that said..anyone who has ever tried to do there own
book knows that it is not easy. Most will fail, some will do
well and a few will do amazing!
Becuase of this...most people doing comics will tell you to do
it for reason
A) the love.
The love is the easy part. If you love to draw comics that's not
going to change. The making money part is hard...and harder in
comics then other art fields. (usually doing your own book means
either you or someone else spends alot up front, and hopes to
make it back. ( unless you work for marvel and dc...in which
case you get a page rate...say for conversations sake 100 -200
per page) and even then you have to build a following, continue
to work and promote your book, all while not seeing much cash
yet) And those page rates from marvel or dc, for the amout of
work you have to do really suck...I
MEAN REALLY SUCKS! as an illustrator i get the same amout
of cash for simple figure drawings and line art. i can get up to
5 times that or more for magazine illos and things of that
nature ( which are simple 4x4inch illos, not 11x17 beast). you
can make GOOD MONEY as an artist. But in comics it's a different
story. This is why people say "do it for the love" - because if
it's JUST ABOUT PAY go
elsewhere- it's easier - if it's for the love
STAY HERE - if it's for
both - WORK YOUR ASS OFF
to make what YOU LOVE PAY OFF!
Thing is that if you DO do well, it can be very good...but to
may people
think they can just jump in and get paid, and it doesn't work
like that. (not any more)
just my 2 cents
wes |
Well, sometimes it works and sometimes it
doesn't.
Sure--do the best work you can and with any luck it will pay off--but
don't go broke in the process. Don't count on comics paying your rent
right out of the gate--especially if you're doing something with a
limited appeal.
I mean--some of the pitches we get are for projects which have an
extremely limited potential audience.
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VictorC wrote: |
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Good stuff
- I have an artist that will do 8 pages to create a submission
package.
Erik - Do you want to see two four page scenes or rather eight
full pages in a row? |
Either or. But in sequence is better.
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:43 am
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nonethewanderer wrote: |
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Raven wrote: |
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Erik: Your e-mail address no longer seems to work. PM me
if you wish about specifics, but I seem to be getting an
AOL error. |
Hmm how covert, what's this about? |
I no longer have an AOL e-mail address. Try
Erik@savagedragon.com
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Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:46 am
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Hey Erik,
I'm interested in the process of digitally darkening pencils in
photoshop to use instead of inking the page traditionally. How
do I need to scan the pencils, (media type, dpi) and how then is
the best way to go about darkening them, (levels, threshold, the
burn tool), in order for them to be fit for print? |
Unless your pencils are SUPER tight--it'll look like crap--but to answer
your question--scan pages in grayscale, full size at a minimum of 300
DPI. Go into Photoshop and mess with the contrast in levels.
At least--that's how I'd do it. Other people might tell you otherwise.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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I know this
is probably a stupid question, but I was just curious. I love
reading comics and I love watching cartoons. Unfortunetly
saturday morning is not what it used to be, so I realy on comics
that imitate those types of stories in order to fill the void.
My reason for asking this question was to find out if many kid
type comics or daily strip type comics are submitted. I thought
Liberty Meadows was great
(I loved it!!!) but a real rarity and still not quite saturday
morning enough. Is there in fact a shortage of creaters in this
area? Are creators afraid of cutesy comics because of being
labeled "corny" or "childish"? I hope not.
If by some stray chance people are submitting this type of
stuff, what is usualy wrong with it? Is it the art or the
stories? I'd assume stories, because creating things that can be
enjoyed by a younger audience can be very controversial. People
read into children's entertainment looking for hidden messages
all too often.
Anyway, this is more of an overall question if need be. What's
the (avg)percentage of a few types of comics submitted. Is it
90% Superhero, 5% Action Adventure, 4% comedy, and 1% children
comics? Obvoisly these are joke figures but I hope you
understand what I'm curious about.
Oh, and I am not currently nor in the near future will I be
submitting anything. I am just an avid comic book reader looking
to add more variety to my collection. |
Most kids comics that are submitted are unfunny superhero parodies.
They're not good. The world really doesn't want any more superhero
parodies, good or bad--but they especially aren't interested in bad
ones.
In general, straight out cartoony comics don't sell all that well to a
market which largely reaches older readers. It's kind of like trying to
sell Calvin & Hobbes to
Adult Book Stores. --You can
try it--but don't expect it to
be a huge success, regardless of how good it is.
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? question,
Erik: would "Image" be interested in publishing a book of
concepts (50, 100?) - if they're top notch and have an
underlying theme - say, the characters of an epic upcomming
series, oriental fantasy setting, whatever? Thanks. |
In all likelihood--no.
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Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:38 pm
The danger would be that it might read like a
collection of ads--and where's the fun in that? We may be interested in
doing a cool art book, if designed well, however.
At this point--you haven't sold me on this.
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Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:38 pm
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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I have
skimmed this thread a few times to get an idea what kinds of
questions were asked. I think it is terrific that all these
creators show so much enthusiasm. Here’s some more questions
that might help them along. |
Beauty.
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1. Since,
it is abundantly clear that Image only takes a one-time fee from
the sale of the comics it publishes, could a creator come
forward with a project and offer to pay the fee up front. I am
not indicating ongoing series; I am referring to one shots or
graphic novellas. To some people $XXXX (if that’s still the fee)
is a small price to pay for a comic of their own creation to be
printed. Understandably, the Image logo might not be on such a
comic. |
I'd rather not air the specifics of our "deal" in a public forum. Having
a creator offer to pay any kind of fee up front does not increase their
chance of being given the green light. Ulimately, the decision is based
solely on the merit of their work.
We want to publish good comics--period.
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2. How well
are the black and white comics selling vs. the color comics (at
Image)? I like both types equally well but ask on behalf of all
those great inkers out there who can make a comic jump off the
page without any color. Which types of comics work best for
black and white? |
Horror often works well in black and white. Superheroes, generally,
don't.
It really comes down to the book itself. Some black and white books sell
quite well--others don't.
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3. Is there
a best time of year to submit? I would guess there has to be a
time when it is inconvenient like near the holiday season. |
No, there is no "best time."
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4. Also
relating to time, what is the best time of year to release a new
comic? This would deal more with actual comics than graphic
novellas because those can sit in a bookstore for months on end
and nobody seems to mind (at least around here). Monthly comics
unfortunately take up precious space on shelves and they seem to
be more selective. |
Sales often dip in January and February--those aren't good launch
months. Summer is often singled out but that's when a LOT of publishers
launch new books and yours can get lost in the shuffle.
I'm not sure that there IS a right answer to that question.
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5. How
would a new comic deal with a letters page? How many months
before the first inclusion of that page or pages? Where would
the letters come from? Could they be answers to online questions
instead of actual letters? |
Creators often use first issues to introduce their book and its creative
team. Often folks will include letters cobbled together from message
boards but I'd suggest including an e-mail address where letters can be
sent in your first issue's text piece.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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6. Some
people have stated on this site that they really would not want
to go to conventions. For the sake of being fair about it, how
do completely silent creators do? I am not just talking about
skipping conventions, I mean not showing up on boards,
interviews, or any pictures. This is probably an unlikely
scenario but I was just curious at what point creators become
too reclusive. |
I have no idea.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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7. Speaking
of reclusive, what options are available for being contacted by
Image? I know they can contact people in a number of ways, but
what ways are required? If the creator really does not feel
comfortable on a phone is that crossing the line or can all
communication be on-line and through traditional mail. This may
not seem like a problem for most, but some people work (and
ultimately live) different shifts than their younger family
members (their children) and some people are just plain nervous
wrecks on a phone. |
We've worked with people in the past through e-mail exclusively. It's
not impossible.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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8. What
type of lettering is easier for small teams (writer and artist),
computer lettering or traditional? This again is a stupid
question but considering all the submissions you receive, what
looks best on most occasions. The obvious choice would be
computer lettering but if done wrong I am sure it would be far
worse. Plus, what software is standard for this? |
Most people do computer lettering with Illustrator®.
Both computer and hand lettering have their advantages--and both can
suck! If sucking is going on--we'll suggest qualified people who can
handle the job.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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9. What is
the panel count generally supposed to be? On Disney comics
(Gemstone Publishing), and older comics the standard was usually
12. Nowadays it seems to lean more toward 6. I should rephrase
the question to read: What is the maximum average page count?
Not all pages would reach max limits but what is normal? |
It doesn't matter.
Different people do different things.
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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10. What
stands a better chance of being accepted, a one shot comic or a
graphic novella? Personally, I would rather buy a novella over a
one shot, because I like more to read. This may not be the case
with other people. |
What's the difference?
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Johnny Jaybird wrote: |
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Sorry for
rattling on! Like I said, I read this thread and looked for
questions not yet asked. I hope this helps get answers for some
new creators out there. If not, I wasted everybody’s time and I
apologize. |

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Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:02 pm
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nonethewanderer wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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...If sucking is going on--we'll suggest qualified
people who can handle the job.
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I'm sorry but that made me laugh.
Good stuff with the rest of the questions though Erik. Now tell
us, if you will, how many issues you want in the can before
solicitations for an issue 1 go out? |
At least ONE would be nice.

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Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:47 pm
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nonethewanderer wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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nonethewanderer wrote: |
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Erik Larsen
wrote: |
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...If
sucking is going on--we'll suggest
qualified people who can handle the job.
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I'm sorry but that made me laugh.
Good stuff with the rest of the questions though
Erik. Now tell us, if you will, how many issues
you want in the can before solicitations for an
issue 1 go out? |
At least ONE would be nice.
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Right.
And I saw that one coming to.
So you really don’t have any requirement then to have like 2 or
3 issues done before you start soliciting issue 1?
Thanks in advance for answering my question...again.
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It really depends on the person--and their track record.
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Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:32 pm
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VictorC wrote: |
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VictorC wrote: |
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Hello Erik,
I published a comic a couple of years ago which was so
rushed that I wouldn’t recommend it to line a bird cage.
That being said, the story has been completely
overhauled and I’m currently working with an artist to
put together a submission package.
We are going to send over eight pages and all the other
requirements listed. However, you mention a cover mock
up and logo design. I’m curious as to what you thought
of my previous attempt (logo and cover layout). I know
that the actual word “Pencilneck” needs to be enlarged,
but other than that, what are your thoughts (should we
go in a different direction in terms of design)?
http://www.paperstreetcomics.com/Images/pn-cover.jpg |
Any word on this one (sorry to double post but I thought you may
have missed it).
 |
You're putting the cart before the horse, dude. Get the book accepted
THEN worry about the covers.
That having been said--I'm not bowled over by what I'm seeing here.
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Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:50 am
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batmanbooyah wrote: |
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ok, say i
had a pitch going. then the artist backed out. full 8 pages done
and everything. but the artist left. (it was still kinda
preliminary anyways, we were going to work on it more). would it
be a waste of time to send in the pitch saying the artist isn't
attached just to get an idea if the PREMISE of the book would
fly at image? |
Yes, it would be a waste of time.
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Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:51 am
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jonnyponderosa wrote: |
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I am
working on a submission that is shall we say mature. Should i
feel okay about posting things here? i mean there is no nudity
but the situations are somewhat graphic.
I just dont want any one to be offended by some colorful
language that isnt any stronger than you would hear on t.v.,
just wasnt sure about the forums. |
You're better off not posting your pitch here in any case. Mail it in!
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Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:31 am
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Deadpool_187 wrote: |
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I have read
the guidelines for proposals and have noticed no claim for
artistic preference. I would assume most people are of the
opinion comics are pencils or paints, but does Image restrict
itself to just those forms? |
No.
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Deadpool_187 wrote: |
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Would you
be opposed to computer generated images or other forms of medium
to tell the story? |
Not as long as it looks good. A lot of computer generated images look
like Barbie dolls posing. It all looks stiff and plastic--but if you can
make it work--by all means--let us see it.
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Deadpool_187 wrote: |
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I am under
the impression this might help a book stand out, thoughts? Would
you be opposed to sitting through several issues of a story, or
do you prefer just the few pages required in the guidelines?
Thank you for your time. |
Whatever. Five pages is a minimum--not a maximum. If you want to show
five pages or 500 pages, we'll flip through them. The reason we ask for
five is to give us an idea of what stuff might look like--if we DON'T
like a book, five pages won't kill anybody. You might not be too happy
to produce 500 pages only to be told that you're NOT getting given the
green light.
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Tue May 10, 2005 11:46 am
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IvanPetrus wrote: |
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Now there's
a fine question.
Is the submission pile higher than Erik himself ? One time ?
Three times ?
How does that translate into the number of weeks that we have to
wait for a reply ?
Do you pick out the really eyecatching ones, or does every
single one gets a number tag to go into the queue ? |
It's a couple feet high at this point.
We go through it when we can find the time. It's been a while.
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Tue May 10, 2005 11:56 am
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queenofspades wrote: |
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So your
book is excepted and is welcomed semi warmly.
What is the production schedule like in reality for a new series
that has already one book out? Does Image set up a schedule with
the creating team? Is there a preset roll out time? Can the
Creator choose a deadline? |
We talk it over. If the book is supposed to be monthly--an issue needs
to get turned in once a month. We'll let you know how long it takes from
the time a book is in our hands to when it's printed and in yours.
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queenofspades wrote: |
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Also, is it
bad to call/email to make sure your submission was recieved,
like I would do to follow up with a resume/application for a
job, to keep your face noticiable? Not to see if they got to it,
just to see if it got there. |
Yes--it IS bad to keep contacting us. We get enough stuff to do as it
is. Don't add to it by calling and pestering. We'll get to it when we
can.
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queenofspades wrote: |
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Last part I
swear
, Does
Image at least reply to every submissoin excepted or not? Is
this a no news is bad news deal (with considering judging time
and shippment time, and understandable drowing in submissions
time.)? |
We DO reply to everything--if there's a valid e-mail address provided.
If there's a problem with your e-mail and you can't receive mail--you're
shit out of luck, however. We can't spend our days trying and trying to
get a hold of you. If we REALLY love it--we may make that effort but if
a "no, sorry" note is forthcoming and your e-mail is down--we're not
going to keep trying throughout the week.
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Tue May 10, 2005 11:59 am
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queenofspades wrote: |
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I really
would like to know how many submissions you guys get in an
average day. I really cannot estimate like that.
Do you have a system by now of how you tell which need a second
look and which is "been there/done that" or no look nessicerry?
I am curious to know what those on the inside do to cope with
something like open submissions. |
We get about five to ten submissions a day.
Our system is to open them up and look them over. 99.9% can be judged by
simply flipping through them and seeing what the look like.
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Tue May 10, 2005 7:23 pm
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Grant_Alter wrote: |
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So at this
point, a submission sent in this week would run a relatively
long time? |
That's a decent estimate.
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Fri May 13, 2005 11:02 am
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Scott Wilson wrote: |
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Would you
consider publishing a story written by a 16-year-old?
I'm talking about legal issues. |
What legal issues?
If the work is exceptional--we'll publish it.
Most 16-year olds aren't that good, however.
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Fri May 20, 2005 4:13 pm
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ninjai wrote: |
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Does the
money generated by putting ads in your book get absorbed into
the cost of the publication, or does that money get placed aside
as part of the profits? |
There is no generated revenue from ads. It's a reciprocal program. Ads
for other Image books run in your book--ads for your book run in other
Image comics.
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ninjai wrote: |
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Ideally for
me a comic book is successful when it has good artwork and even
better writing. In the comic book industry and the number
crunching, as well as with new submissions/books is it better to
have sweet artwork, and average writing, or average artwork and
sweet writing? I see a few books that get published that really
have average (at best) artwork, but the story and writing is
excellent...Image seems to have been more willing to publish
excellent story and writing over artwork, is this still the
case? OR has it gotten to the point where Image needs to be very
selective and only accept excellent artwork and excellent
writing? |
It really needs to be all good.
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Thu May 26, 2005 10:55 pm
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Samy wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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There is no generated revenue from ads. It's a
reciprocal program. Ads for other Image books run in
your book--ads for your book run in other Image comics. |
So there are no out-of-house ads in an Image comic? |
That is correct.
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Samy wrote: |
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If an Image
comic features only in-house ads, how many pages would this
typically eat up? Say, if I have 22 pages of story, would I pay
for printing a 32 page book to get in 10 pages of ads? |
Comics are, typically, 32 pages long. You can fill them however you
like. We’d like you to run a few
ads for other Image books and really, if you expect others to run ads
for YOUR book it’s a good idea if YOU run an ad for their book but it’s
not required--especially if you have legitimate content to fill your
book with.
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Samy wrote: |
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Also, does
the number of ad pages depend on the amount of story pages?
Would a 60 page comic feature more in-house ads than a 24 page
comic? |
Not necessarily. You don't have to run any ads (or at least--not many).
If you have a 64-page story to tell--we're not going to insist that you
stick in extra pages to give us room for ads. The more pages for the
reader--the better. Our #1 priority is making sure the reader gets the
best possible comic book for their money and it’s in your best interest
for that to be the case.
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Samy wrote: |
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What about
the possibility of an ad-free book? Is that possible for an
extra fee, or must all Image books carry the house ads if they
are Image books? |
It's possible to do an ad-free book. If, however, there is room--we'd
like the ads to be for Image books not books from another publisher.
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Samy wrote: |
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Or are
these specific terms that can all be negotiated when the Image
fee is discussed? |
We'll talk about that, sure.
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Samy wrote: |
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Another
topic I'm curious on is at what point the schedule to an ongoing
series is discussed with Image. An earlier reply implied that
it'd be enough to have just one issue completed before #1 goes
into solicitations. But if you're waiting for the sales on #1
before deciding on #2, then there would be a huge gap between
the two issues, wouldn't there? You would have to pretty much
have three or so issues in the can, at least, on your own money,
before any possible revenue starts coming in from #1, no? |
Yeah--that really doesn't work.
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Samy wrote: |
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Or could
there be, say, a half year pause between #1 and #2, during which
the creator would tally up the sales from #1, see if the
property is viable revenuewise, and then get cracking on #2 if
#1 sold enough? |
No--the creative team really can't do things that way and, frankly, your
audience won't stand for it. You'd be better off putting out a
self-contained original graphic novel--at least then your readers will
be assured of getting a completed story. To expect to wait until you see
how sales are and get paid is completely unworkable.
The gap would be eight months or more and readers would lose interest.
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Samy wrote: |
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I'm just
wondering on the logistics of scheduling, and any illumination
on this issue would be nice. |
See above.
Basically, it takes a leap of faith and a strong belief in the strength
of your own property. You need to be committed to it and we need to be
committed to it as well. If the book loses money, after all, we lose as
well. we want strong books that will last for years to come and the
books we give a green light to are books that we believe in.
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Samy wrote: |
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Does Image
or the creator choose the printer and handle contact with the
printer? If all Image books are printed through the same
printer, does Image get decent rates? Again, if Image handles
the printer connection, at what point would a creator be
informed of the printing rates? I would assume that any exact
amounts (how much a full color book of 22 story pages would cost
to print) are too secret to be printed here, but at some point,
a creator would need to know this information in order to draw
up his business plan, no? |
That's a conversation that goes on after a book is approved. We've used
several plants in the past and we get far better rates because we print
a lot of books than you would be able to get on your own and we're
always looking to get the best possible deal. We're in this together,
after all and we want you to make as much money as possible. The more
successful you are, the longer your book lasts and that's ultimately
beneficial to us. We’d rather do books that last for years than a string
of titles that die after an issue or two.
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Fri May 27, 2005 12:32 am
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The McDermott wrote: |
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Ever
consider bringing back a little inside Image column that would
spotlight various books from the publisher?
Essentially 1 big ad that covered a half dozen or so books and a
checklist. |
We've been kicking it around. The problem is (and I admit to being a
part of that problem of late) the tardy or MIA books. If we include a
complete checklist for, say, June, there are bound to be a few that
won't make it out during that time and it throws the whole thing off.
But it's on the "to do" list, to be sure, regardless. Not everybody buys
Diamond Previews and knows what's coming up.
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Mon May 30, 2005 1:11 am
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Aaron Wilder wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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There is no generated revenue from ads. It's a
reciprocal program. Ads for other Image books run in
your book--ads for your book run in other Image comics.
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Do the creators of the book have any say over which in-house ads
are placed in the book? For example, could someone say "I want a
Small Gods ad to run in the book". Or is that your discretion
and would you group ads according to target audience? |
If people have specific requests, we'll generally accommodate them
(often it will come down to availability). If there aren't specific ads
requested, we'll place ads for book with similar target audiences. In
other words--all ages ads in all ages books--horror ads in horror books,
etc. Also, if there are books a creator does NOT want advertised in
their book, we'll make sure they don't run there as well.
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Tue May 31, 2005 12:55 am
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comixscetcher wrote: |
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first what
do u think of this plot.
title: "clicks"
a nerd. a jock. a goth. an artist. a cheerleader. these unlikly
team members join forces when a odd explosion at a middle school
changes all of them forever.
want more?
email:
comixscetcher@sbcglobal.net |
It's not much of a "plot," your spelling, punctuation, grammar and
capitalization are atrocious--plus
it sounds like pretty typical fare for any movie, comic book or TV show.
What's there to "want more" of? More cliches? More poor spelling?
There's no "hook" here--nothing that sets it apart from everything else.
And it really has no place here.
This thread is supposed to be questions related to submissions--not a
place to post pitches.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:37 am
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ClaudeBaptiste wrote: |
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Mr. Larsen,
the way you look to the submissions that are shown to you, is it
affected by writers wannabe like the one before, or can you
separate it?
It’s fair that you get tired of this stuff…It’s too much, even
for non published people, like me. |
I can separate it but 99 times out of 100 the art is so wretched that it
doesn't stand a chance.
And it's more heartbreaking than anything else. I know these guys have
worked for years to get to where they are--and that their friends and
acquaintances have told them that they're as good as any professional.
Often these folks are delusional and have no perspective on their own
relative skills--and it's my solemn duty to break the news to them that
their dreams aren't going to come true.
But the honest truth is--if their books were approved--they'd fail. The
stories are often idiotic--the dialogue is clumsy and stilted--the art
is amateurish--and the buying public would simply not buy it. The books
would lose money. Our reputation would be sullied. The stories would go
unfinished--and nobody would end up a winner in this scenario.
Still--every so often--a real gem arrives and it makes it all
worthwhile.
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Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:54 pm
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jonnyponderosa wrote: |
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They dont
hire you, you hire them. I might be wrong but it would be no
different if you got in a cab, took a bus or ordered a pizza.
You pay a fee for a service and that service is them being your
publisher.
Please let me know if I'm wrong. |
You're wrong.
You don't pay a fee--a fee is taken from the monies collected from the
distributer. It's a bit different--but creators don't end up cutting us
a check--we pay them.
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Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:29 pm
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mrhogg wrote: |
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A quick
question about simultaneous submissions: are they frowned upon?
I know that in the traditional publishing world they tend to be,
is the same true for Image? |
That's fine--just don't send us multiple copies of the same pitch. if
you wanted to send a pitch to us and Dark Horse or Oni--that's fine. If
you meant sending in pitches for a few books in one package--that's okay
too.
We're easy.
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:52 pm
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Mark Poulton wrote: |
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Hi Erik, I
was thinking of submitting my book to Image. I know the
guidelines say a minimum of 5 finished pages are required but
sending more is also allowed. Is there such a thing as sending
too many pages? I know I shouldn't send a phonebook of pages in,
but I picture my book as a 3 issue mini-series and the first 2
issues are complete. Would you be interested in seeing all of
those pages? Thanks for your time. |
That's fine.
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Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:35 am
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Gonzogoose wrote: |
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When
dealing with Studios I am told that you still consider each book
separately. I was curious how that process worked. Would the
studio typically submit each and every title and you consider
each one individually or what? |
Yes--and there have been studios that have left because we wouldn't take
ALL of their books. Often these guys go it alone and find out WHY we
weren't interested in those books when their numbers come in.

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Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:21 am
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AndrewB wrote: |
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In the
submissions thread, it says make the synopsis one page, but
concise. Should the synopsis be a full page of selling the
story? Or should it just be a quick paragraph that gets straight
to the point and the rest of the page is us explaining on why we
think our book should be picked up as a one shot or mini or
whatever? |
Save the sales pitch and the sucking up--I've heard them all. Your work
should sell itself. If I can't tell that you've got a winner from the
book itself--something's definitely wrong.
I don't need to know that you started reading comics when I was drawing
Spider-Man or that you enjoy Savage Dragon--that's beside the point and
sucking up really gets you nowhere (telling me that you think I stink
gets you nowhere as well, by the way) --I don't need or care to know
what you think of me-- show me what YOU can do.
Tell me what the book is about. Tell me what happens.
And that's it.
Don't add anything that's superfluous. If you can tell me the basics in
a paragraph--by all means--do that. If you have something nifty to
add--that's fine too but don't ramble on for the sake of filling up more
sheets of paper. I don't have time for that nonsense
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Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:59 am
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dragonfollower wrote: |
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Erik,
Hey, sorry to bug you about this...
I'm just wondering how long is too long when waiting for a
response to a submission? Or, at what point should we assume it
wasn't recieved and send it in again? I sent a submission in
around four months ago and haven't heard anything. Just
wondering whether I should begin worrying or not |
At this point--I'd asume it was lost.
We're pretty caught up on stuff at this point.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:03 am
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dmstudios2003 wrote: |
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Hi, Erik -
I have a graphic novel in production, the pencils and inks are
almost done (and by “almost”, I mean there’s only eleven pages
left, in an one-hundred and eleven page story), the first 24
pages are colored, with some minor changes needed, and the
lettering proofs just came in.
I'd like to submit to Image now, but I'm concerned using proofs
or pages needing minor changes may count against me.
In a situation like this, would you advise to wait until the
finals are done? Or, would you agree that I could submit, adding
a small comment that the pages aren't finalized or about where I
am in production? |
Eh. Send it in as is. We really only need to see five or more finished
pages.
If it's good--it's good. There aren't things that really "count against
you" if the work looks good--we're interested.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:05 am
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HvH wrote: |
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I have a
question for Mr. Larsen. Hope it doesn’t sound too stupid….
Is it possible to submit an ongoing back-up project directly to
Image and have Image select a suitable series for it from the
titles that are being printed? Or does Image select projects as
‘packages’ that could include a back-up story or not?…
There are a lot of instances where the back-up stories gain as
much relevance in terms of sales as the ‘main features’. Also,
some comics authors don’t want to ‘slave off’ 22 pages or more
per month and this sort deal is, usually, beneficial to both.
But heck, everybody knows the advantages in these sorts of
situations…
What I’m trying to know is if Image would accept ‘back-up
projects’ (with original characters and plot) and negotiate them
with artists publishing ‘ongoing titles’ or if this should be
dealt privately by the ‘back-up project’ creators with the
‘ongoing title’ creators? |
Generally, it's not done and in the few cases where there are books that
run back ups--often, those people are doing it for free.
So--it's unlikely.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:06 am
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billthomason wrote: |
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Hey Erik, a
quick question for you.
I've been working on a 5 issue mini series for quite a while.
Right now, I have a ten page prelude story detailing the life of
the antagonist almost fully done with art. Would this prelude
story be acceptable for a submission for the mini series along
with a full synopsis of said mini? |
Sure.
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Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:07 am
Those guidelines should be getting updated any day now, by the way...
[EDIT - They have been updated - B]
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:44 pm
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mysweetphantom wrote: |
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Hello! i
have a question...which i guess is why im in this thread, but
enough redundancy!!
In my comic, Beautiful Nightmare, one of the two main characters
is based off of Gaston Leroux's character The Phantom. also the
location is in the paris opera house. however other than that my
comic is different from any phantom story, (or any story in
general)
however, I hope to get it published someday, but would having a
phantom as my main character stop me from getting it published? |
If it's based on a character who is NOT in public domain--we can't touch
it.
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Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:03 pm
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shazaman wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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If it's based on a character who is NOT in public
domain--we can't touch it. |
What's the status with using characters that are based on
archetypes but are fully developed in their own right, eg,
series like Authority, Squadron Supreme, etc that take
archetypes based on Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman etc and do
something new with them so they're no longer identifiable with
the original? There seems like a lot of creative development of
similar type characters etc within the industry as a whole and
at what level does this become a legal copyright issue? |
When the characters are similar enough that people have trouble telling
them apart.
But seriously--haven't we really had ENOUGH of that kind of stuff by
now? Yeah, yeah--it was fun for the first ten or fifteen times but isn't
that enough? Whatever happened to the idea of coming up with something
NEW instead of coming up with some cheap knock off? What cheap imitation
that hasn't stayed far from its roots has gone on to become anything
noteworthy? Does the world at large really need ANOTHER Batman knock off
or ANOTHER Superman clone?
You say you want to write--why not
write instead of doing variations of someone else's efforts?
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:40 am
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mysweetphantom wrote: |
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Gah!! Im
sorry i didnt mean to cause an issue! my story really is
different even the character is unique, trust me |
Oh, I do. I wasn't intending to pick on you in particular--it was more
of a general comment.
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:39 am
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justed wrote: |
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Any idea
when the new submission guidelines will be posted? I am hoping
to have a submission pack ready in time for WW Chicago, but
don't want to put it together under the current guidelines if
they're going to change. |
Christ--I dunno. I thought they'd be up by now.
And DO NOT submit things at shows! You're just asking to have them get
lost! Image isn't setting up in Chicago! Yes, I'll be milling about
somewhere but there's no way that I'm going to lug around a couple
hundred proposals with me!
As far as the guidelines go--
Just think--what would it take to sell your book? Send at least five
finished pages--any size--and a short synopsis of what your book is
about. If you have more pages--swell. If you have less--don't bother. We
need to tell that you know what you're doing.
Don't sweat it.
A bad cover less won't blow your chances. I don't even need a cover
letter, really--I've had my fill of folks trying to act cool or suck
up--just show me your stuff. Show me how good your book will be.
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:40 am
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iliaskrzs wrote: |
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well............. i am writing a proposal for image.... i have a
question and i was hoping someone who knows could help me...
the story relies heavily on flashbacks... we learn vital things
about the heroes through flashbacks up until the end of the
comic...
Should the plot synopsis present the story
as it would appear in the comic
or in a a linear way?
(for clarity)
(of course if i do the latter i'll have to write a second much
shorter synopsis to show the story in the order it would appear
in the comic) |
Whatever you feel works best. It really doesn't matter.
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:50 am
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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1) Is it
true that Diamond wants 60% off the cover price in order for
them to distribute your comic?
2) Is it true that a Savage Dragon movie is in the works?
3) If motion picture rights are sold, does Image get a piece of
it? |
1. No.
2. No.
3. No
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:01 am
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HvH wrote: |
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Are there
any subjects that IMAGE would never touch? |
Porno comics starring children would make that list. I would have said
bestiality or necrophilia but then Zombie King was turned in...
Sigh.
Just kiddie porn then...
There are, however, tough sells. Superhero parody/humor books have a
tendency to die pretty quickly. I can't think of any which have had
sustained runs (although a few of the better ones keep resurfacing only
to fade away once more).
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:03 am
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Jettison wrote: |
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Erik,
Is it up to me as an artist to decide on wether or not I want to
lay my comic pages out on the computer? I mean, If I dont want
to draw an actual comic page, but draw the individual panels,
and assemble them in photoshop...is that acceptable? |
Who would know or even care?
I don't see why that would be an issue at all.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:09 am
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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1) If sales
do not cover the printing and Image's flat fee, is the creator
responsible to pay the difference?
2) If I am granted the comic book publishing license from an
existing product, would Image be willing to give a page or two
of advertising to the licensor to market those products in which
the comic book is derived from? |
1. In most cases, the book is simply not printed. If the creator is
determined but there's no way it could possibly break even--they'd have
to. We can't afford to piss away money like that.
2. In that comic, sure--I couldn't guarantee that ads would run in other
Image titles, however--but often licensors ask for ads in the licensed
comics and I can't think of an instance when we didn't let that happen.
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:13 am
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Jettison wrote: |
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ALSO....what is the standard TEXT size used in comics? |
I don't know that there is one.
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Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:20 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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1) Is
Image's "modest office fee" charged per issue?
2) Would hiring a professional kick-ass cover artist to do the
cover of your submission help in any way, shape or form? I ask
because my artist can do great sequentials ... but his covers
suck.
3) Can I send 5 pages of sequentials without a cover? |
1. Yes.
2. It can't hurt--but unless the interiors kick serious ass--you're
wasting your money--and you really can't know that unless you send it in
or ask a mess of brutally honest pros (actually--you won't get much
feedback from us--but you'll find out if it's approved or not). A good
cover will NOT guarantee that your book will get approved.
3. Yes--but we'd PREFER to see it with a cover.
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Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:22 pm
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foxmerquise8 wrote: |
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How would
you feel about a one shot with a collection of short stories? |
Fine--but I'd like to see samples from ALL of the artists included.
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:54 am
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Dear Mr.
Larsen,
From reading a previous post, I understand that a 5-page
prologue is okay in a submission. Is it okay if that prologue
does not feature any of the main characters? |
Look--you're trying to sell the
series to me--if you really
think that the best way to do
that is WITHOUT the main characters--then fine--go right ahead. If it
was me--I'd show the main characters in action--but the point is to
determine if you can tell a story and make it interesting. If you wanna
do that with other characters--that's fine too.
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:49
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Gonzogoose wrote: |
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Ok, per the
new guidelines it states you accept samples from artists. It
also states you can send links, but you need to send hard copies
for a greenlight for projects. Does this apply to artist samples
as well or can they just send links? Thanks. |
Send hard copies.
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Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:53 am
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Glaze wrote: |
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Do you know
if bi-monthly releases are ever granted? |
Yeah.
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Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:33 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Any chance
of seeing a sample submission package posted online for us
aspiring scum to see. It would be educational to see what you
guys think what a good one-page synopsis should look like. Heck,
I'd even like to see a sample cover letter. Any chance? Please!
Double dawg please! |
I can't really do that. The pitches that come in don't belong to us and
it's not fine for us to post them. There are copyright issues. If YOU
had a pitch, which contained plot elements that anybody might SEE and
even USE, would YOU want it posted?
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Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:36 pm
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Beto_Machado wrote: |
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How much
money can a person end up owing Image (per issue) if their comic
is not successful? |
Generally that's not an issue. If a book is doing so poorly that it
can't make money--we just don't publish it and that's the end of that.
If the creator absolutely insists on publishing despite it all--it can
cost all kinds of money. Buy most often that doesn't happen and we can
be fairly flexible and accommodating
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Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:18 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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How about a sample submission package from a miniseries that has
already been published ... with permission from the creator?
I really think a sample may help reduce the number of poorly
constructed submission packages you receive -- giving us a
better idea of what we should strive for.
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It's really not THAT big a deal. If you can't write a decent one-pare
synopsis--maybe you're not as good as you think you are.
There is no specific look or format, which will guarantee that your book
will be given a green loght. Make the book cool. If the book is
great--we'll take it on. It's that simple. And it's not as though a
brilliant synopsis will get a shitty book approved or that a shitty
synopsis will sink a great book.
Your main concern is, or should be, the book itself. If it's
awesome--you're in.
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Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:25 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Beto_Machado wrote: |
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Question about character names. I know one should avoid
calling their characters obvious things like "Batman" or
"Tom Cruise".
But what about this... I have a secondary character
which has a pretty common nickname, one that thousands
of people have. The thing is, there is a singer that
uses that name. Should i avoid naming a
secondary character
that just because of the singer? Can the singer
even register/copyright a common nickname?
Thanks. |
Remember what happened to Todd McFarlane? |
Well, let's not forget--Tony Twist has still never seen a dime.
It really depends on how you use it and all the rest. There's an
actor/wrestler who goes by the name "The Rock" but that didn't stop me
from having a character called Rock. Of course--My Rock may have
predated the other Rock.
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Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:46 am
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McKlyde wrote: |
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hello
Mr.Larsen
I was wondering what sort of organization the submission should
be in, given the parameters, I wasnt sure how some of the pages
should be organized. As of now, this is how I have mine:
-cover letter: requested information ; self introduction ;
project information ( how I want it to be, target audience, etc
).
-one page synopsis: series background, story arc, other story
information.
-cover mock up
-6 page example
-concept/character art
what exactly is your most prefered, if any? |
That sounds fine. It's really not THAT important as long as the pages of
the story itself are in sequential order.
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Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:48 am
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dragonfollower wrote: |
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I was just
wondering whether there was any benefit to publishing a comic in
black and white instead of color? Ideally, I would want the
comic I'm submitting in color. But I'm hesitant to submit it
that way, because I know print runs have to be higher and the
initial risk is greater on color books. What would you suggest
we do in regards to color? |
Don't worry about it for the time being. If the book is submitted and we
like it--we can iron that out.
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:24 pm
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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1what if i
want to put out more comics under my company name, do i have to
submit that. |
Yes. Getting one book approved does not mean that other books will be
approved.
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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2. do any
of the people who have submited and made it have a website. i'd
like to see other things done by other people. |
There's a website that we all use. It's called
www.imagecomics.com
there may be links to other sites there as well.
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3.will it
become a comic book sold in stores. |
Yes. That's pretty much the point of doing this.
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4. if i
want it colored, do i have color it? or will they take care of
that. |
For a submission--don't worry about color. If the book is approved, we
can talk about your options.
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5. is their
any words i can not use, (such as the s word the f word and
other things) |
In the interior of your book--no. Although we will need to tell
retailers about it beforehand when the book is solicited. You CAN'T
title your book FUCK FACE, Agent of S.H.I.T.H.E.A.D. or use foul
language in your solicitations or on your cover.
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6. does it
have to be a one page summary over the book. if i nowared it
down to one page, it would probaly suck. |
Yes. One page. You can, of course, have a thick binder of text to
accompany that one page which elaborates on yor brief summary but a
one-page overview is a necessity.
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Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:57 am
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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i also have
another question. i have a name for a comic company which i want
to use on my book. i have a logo and everything. will that be
used on my book, or will it have "image" on it? |
If YOU publish it--it can say whatever you want it to--if Image
published it--it would say Image on the cover.
Just Image--nothing more.
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:54 am
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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so i can
put the name of company in the book, like malibu did with some
of the older image books? |
You could--on the inside--but not on the cover. And, by the way--Malibu
actually published Image comics for our first year so they really WERE
entitled to have their company name in the books.
But my point is that this should be about joining Image NOT starting
your own imprint. If you want your own company--start up your own
company!
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:43 pm
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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i want to
publish my comics under image and have a name on them (like TMP
and Shadowline) for my book. |
When you become an Image partner so can do that--not before (and
yeah--there are one or two exceptions but not many).
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:12 pm
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mocktales wrote: |
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Is
spawn5061 talking about
adding something to the actual
i logo from image?
Like Top Cow's utters under it's Image logo? |
I'm not sure.
Top Cow is the only one that does that. Todd doesn't use anything else
on his covers other than the Image "i" --he doesn't slap a TMP on his
covers.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:41 pm
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I think the
question got lost earlier in the thread but...
Established artist: good or bad?
When I was eighteen or nineteen, I had Jason Armstrong onboard
for a pitch to a major publisher. I didn't get anywhere and by
the time I did, the response was unfortunately a "Jason
Armstrong WHO?"
(I've lost touch with them but I hope Ferro City is reminding a
few folks who he is. He has WONDERFUL design sensibilities and I
was fortunate to even be a blip on his radar at that age.)
More to the point, the industry is overbrimming with artistic
talent. If a new writer tracked down a strong but
underappreciated veteran like a Herb Trimpe or a Kerry Gammill,
would that add to the marketability of the pitch or detract from
it?
I know this doesn't work for everyone or every project and that
as soon as a writer finds an open window into the industry, it
closes quickly.
I thought maybe there was an unspoken rule that new writers pair
best with new artists. I'd guess the ultimate answer is that it
depends. But a new writer with a strong story and a veteran
artist stands a better chance than a new writer with an artist
who is fun to look at but an otherwise unproven commodity,
right? |
Not necessarily. A number of established pros come saddled with a
preconceived notion from retailers of how well their work is (and will
be) received as well as how to order the books, which they work on. But
it really does depend on who that individual is and what the pitch looks
like.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:10 am
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tank wrote: |
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When this
thread started Erik seemed like he was eager to help us all, now
I can practically hear him cursing us under his breath. I am
honestly worried that by the time I finish my submission, Erik
will have grown so pissed off at the amount of retarded and
inappropriate questions here, that he will have convinced Todd
to shut Image down. |
Aw, that's not the case. I love you guys, really--and I do want to help.
Obviously, I want the very best for everybody in comics--and Image in
particular. If I can help make the next Image book that much better--I'm
all about that.
I'm here to help.
I'd hate to think anybody would feel as though they shouldn't ask a
question here. And sure, it's a fine idea to read the submissions
guidelines and the rest of this thread but please--don't be shy. If you
have a question--ask it and I'll do my best to answer it.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:36 pm
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Jason A. Quest wrote: |
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tank wrote: |
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Does Image continue to publish so long as there is a
profit? Does the bubble for profit equal the bubble for
printing?
I would imagine that a book just barely making a profit
over the printing and flat fees wouldn't be kept on the
roster if the circulation wasn't going up. Is that true?
Or do you keep it running as long as it breaks even? Is
there a point at which a book will be cancelled if it
isn't making a big enough profit? |
Keep in mind that Image makes the same amount on a book whether
the book sells 5,000 or 5,000,000; the profits (or lack thereof)
go to the creator. So the decision to publish or cancel is one
the creator would participate in. |
Image does everything it can to keep its books going--period. We've gone
out of our way to make things work. In some cases we've really taken it
in the shorts. But that's worked out okay. Some books (like Invincible,
for example) started off a bit soft--lost numbers--and then turned
around and really took off. It does happen.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:33 pm
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tank wrote: |
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That's
awesome of you guys to put faith in a book like that. In a case
like Invincible, those growing numbers later in the first year
obviously told you there was an audience for a TPB.
Is the money/licensing/publishing deal on TPBs the same as
regular issues? I assume there is some sort of circulation to be
reached to justify taking a TPB to press as well... |
With the Trade Paperbacks there's a percentage taken as well as the
normal flat fee. We have to sink a ton of money into the trades--often
they don't break even for months and since we don't take an additional
fee when a book goes back to press--we need something in order to make
things work financially. We couldn't afford to go back to press on any
book (nor would we have any real incentive to) if we didn't take a
percentage.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:26 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Erik, when
you say "we don't take an additional fee when a book goes back
to press" do you mean that you don't take an additional service
fee when an issue goes to second printing or when a TPB goes to
second printing or both? |
I'm pretty sure that it's both.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:28 am
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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We all know
that there is NOT a lot of money to be made in comics. Every one
and their mother has told us so. You gotta do it for the love of
it. But do I still want to know how I get paid? Yes, I do.
Because you bet your ass that the artist, inker and colorist
that I’m working wants to know. Or if I’m trying to get the
licensing rights from an existing property … I need to include
this type of information in my proposal to them. Am I putting
the cart before the horse? Maybe ... but an informed mind is a
prepared mind. I always like to be prepared before I do anything
-- kind of like doing the research before writing the ol'
college paper. |
There CAN BE a lot of money made in comics--don't get me wrong--it's
certainly possible. I've cut some pretty fat checks for people. But you
can't be guaranteed that you'll make big bank. You need a good game plan
and a strong property.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:07 am
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Grant_Alter wrote: |
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Kirkman not
taking profits is NOT cause he doesn't deserve them. It's
because he's being generous. |
Robert Kirkman has said to me that he makes more money from his Image
books than from his Marvel books. Given the checks I've seen--I can
believe that. Robert started out "just doing it for the love" but at
this point he's making a decent living from his creator-owned stuff.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:35 pm
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Just to
clarify, I was asking for a professional's opinion on a fair
split between the creator and the creative team -- which is a
different matter than the business that goes on between Image
and the creator. I know that "every deal is different" but I'm
just interested in what Erik felt was fair. |
There's no one answer. There are writers that can bat out ten books a
month and artists that can't manage one. Often inkers take a lot of
time. Color can be flat and simple or rendered to beat the band--it can
take a little or a lot of time. Is it fair to say that the "creator"
gets 10%, the writer 20%, the penciller 30%, the inker 20%, the colorist
20% and the letterer gets a flat fee off the top? In some
cases--yeah--in others, no.
On my book, I've always paid the colorist and letterer a flat rate--so
if I bring in a guest star and sales go up--they're not rewarded when
they're essentially doing the same job--and if my sales tank--they're
not punished.
But it's really up to the creative team to decide what's fair FOR THEM.
I know of some people that split the take 50/50 (writer/artist) which,
to me, isn't fair based simply on the length of time it takes to do the
job--but there are those who would argue that the book wouldn't be crap
without the writer--that they're the only one that start with a blank
page. On the other hand--there are artists that clearly drive sales as
well. If a newcomer writer was working with Jim Lee should the split be
the same as if Jim was working with Alan Moore or Frank Miller? If Frank
Miller was writing a book that he wasn't drawing--should the split be
the same with some untalented newcomer as it would if Todd McFarlane was
the artist? I wouldn't think so. In these examples--different creators
are bringing different things to the table. I think it makes a certain
sense to negotiate every time a new title is thrown together.
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:30 pm
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mocktales wrote: |
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Erik, would
you say there are a lot of people out there submitting who are
either an extreme of one, or the less-extreme of the other. Like
for example; Someone puts way too much effort into writing or
drawing a story that doesn't have much of an interesting grab to
it. And then others who have a good idea, but don't put any
effort into developing it. |
Most are crappy ideas coupled with awful art. Generally--the better the
art is--the more professional the entire package is. Better writers are
better able to hook up with better artists.
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:34 pm
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LugosiCoffee wrote: |
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It would be
nice if there was a specific thread for critiques. Not for
people to just post and think they've got the next golden
ticket. I'm talking about something designed specifically with
the intent of helping creators develop their ideas. |
There's nothing stopping anybody from starting one--but the problem
would be guys simply reading it to raid it for ideas. Or people posting
their stuff and assuming that somebody stole their idea when something
similar sees print.
That--and who has the time to write all those critiques?
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Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:47 am
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Gonzogoose wrote: |
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What genres
is Image chiefly interested in at this time? Or in other words,
because I know you're going to say if it's a great story Image
will take it, what, in your opinion, is the market missing, what
will sell, and what will entertain more than other
genres/stories? |
I think that trying to do something to fill a void is a mistake.
Ideally, you should be trying to tell a story that you want to tell.
You can like Savage Dragon or loathe it but it was a character that I
felt passionate about and I had a story that I wanted to tell. Had I
done a cowboy/romance comic because cowboy/romance comics were all the
rage--I'm guessing it wouldn't have been as good because it wouldn't
have been something that I felt strongly about.
That having been said--we're not really looking for cowboy/romance
comics.
Logic pretty much tells you what sells and doesn't. Superhero parody
books or "funny" comics about girls with big jugs die pretty quickly in
this market. There are other kinds of books, which are a hard sell.
Science fiction or "cosmic" books are traditionally hard to sell.
I know that many readers would
like to see Image do more of the kind of kick ass superhero books that
it did in the early '90s. Ant launched very well and I think part of
that is due to readers seeing it as a throwback to the kind of books we
did early on. The most frequent request I hear is from readers bemoaning
the lack of a coherent Image universe. But those kinds of books aren’t
easy to do. Image is a creator-owned company and creators can’t be
forced to share their creations. Making a universe “work” isn’t
easy—especially when creators want to be able to do whatever they want
to in the confines of their own books.
I’d advise anybody to simply follow their muse. What book would YOU like
to read? What book ISN’T being published that you’d like to read? Don’t
just think, “I should do zombies—the Walking Dead is selling really
well.” Think about what books AREN’T being published. Where is the void?
What’s missing? And if you have a great story to tell—readers will show
up to read it.
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:56 am
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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Does one
have to pay any fees or put any money down when publishing with
Image? If so, how much? And what is the minimum run for a comic
book? Who pays for the printing? And does everything have to be
completely set up, like even the pre-press/production work,
etc.? Or does someone there do that? |
The money generated from the books themselves pay off everything. From
that money the printing bill is paid. From that money our fee is taken
out.
The minimum depends on costs and a number of things affect that. Paper
costs, page count, cover price and a number of other factors come into
play.
And you send in files--we handle the rest.
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Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:14 pm
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PatrickG wrote: |
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]I've been
crunching numbers. |
Which is always difficult given that you don't actually HAVE any.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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If I had a
mini-series published at Image, how would it WORK? |
You, personally? That’s hard to say given the information I have at my
fingertips in regard to you and your book—absolutely no information
whatsoever.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I'm seeing
5,000 copies an issue for a lot of books and around 1,500 for
trades.
Say I have advanced financing for talent, is it workable with
those kind of numbers? |
Those aren’t guaranteed numbers by any means. Books do better AND worse
and it really depends on the book. Decent books make gobs of cash.
Poor-selling books don’t.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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Without
getting too specific or too personal... Is this realistic? Is
this what I need to be prepared for in a BEST CASE scenario?
I'm not asking if this is the case on Savage Dragon or even
Invincible but is this common? |
In a best case scenario there are no worries at all. The best selling
books make money right out of the gate.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I would
imagine that a lot of guys submit without necessarily having the
numbers mapped out and a clear idea of where the money comes
from for the guys working a flat fee.
I know the Image "i" isn't for sale and that a person has to
pass the submissions process but what I'm saying, I guess, is...
Should the creator expect to take a substantial loss upfront and
make it up later? |
It’s always good to hope for the best but plan for the worst. If you go
in expecting nothing—you’ll be pleasantly surprised. If you go in
expecting to become a millionaire overnight, chances are that you’ll be
disappointed. There are no guarantees but we don’t take on books, which
we don’t feel have a fighting chance of kicking ass.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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But getting
accepted, a person could still wind up with an artist who
doesn't make a lot on percentage until the trade hits, am I
right? |
It’s possible but the exceptions on both sides are so prevalent that
it’s really tough to nail down. You just need to bring your best game to
the table. Don’t bring us a B’wanna Beast or Brother Voodoo and get bent
out of shape when it doesn’t sell like Spider-Man.
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Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:25 pm
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I imagine
it gets easier the more experience (and success) you get.
I can't claim to speak for Image but I've known a few pros at
other companies who have basically pitched stuff at a bar with
their editor or in a room full of creators.
I imagine Kirkman wouldn't necessarily have to put his next
pitch in the stack. He'd still have to fight for it but the
process might change some.
And... I'm almost certain that Image partners, while they might
discuss plans, wouldn't necessarily submit at all. I imagine
that the partners have a lot more freedom.
Worry about the first book first. If it doesn't get accepted,
you're worrying about nothing. |
I really have nothing to add. You pretty much nailed it on all counts.
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:08 pm
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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i have
another question. on the five page perview for the comic, can
you make the pages go front and back, or one page on each sheet? |
It doesn't matter.
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Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:44 pm
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hobbes wrote: |
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I'm curious
to know how does one submit a anthology? Since there will be
various stories by different teams invloved, does Image want
samples from each story in the anthology? |
Pretty much, yeah.
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Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:29 pm
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Mr. Psycho wrote: |
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What is the
Image fee and what does it cover? Printing included or no? |
The Image fee pays for our rent and people who work in the office that
help make your book possible. The Image fee gets you an ad in Previews.
The Image fee does not cover printing. Printing prices fluctuate. The
more copies you print--the higher the printing bill. We couldn't
possibly cover ALL possible printing bills with one flat fee unless it
was gigantic and that would be impossible for little books to cover.
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Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:31 pm
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Hardcore14 wrote: |
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1. What
would make a new superhero pitch standout from the pack?
2. What type of superhero pitches get rejected in a flash? |
1. Originality in concept and appearance.
2. Cable clones.
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:49 am
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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So
wait...what happens if the sales on the book tank and there's no
money to pay the printing bill? Does that have to come out of
the pocket of the creators?
And you're saying that the cost of printing depends on the
amount of copies that are printed. But is there a minimum amount
of books that have to be printed? Or could someone only print
like 500 or 1000 books?
Oh, and it's still kind of vague: is it okay to submit a
one-shot? (I assume it is from Jason's post, but I just wanted
to be sure). |
Yes--you can submit a one shot.
As for printing--we know what those numbers mean before we go to press.
If a book won't break even (at least) or get close enough that we feel
it will break even shortly--we don't go to press. We don't put creators
into debt unless they WANT to do something like that (and some HAVE had
that happen. We've had guys that wanted their poorly-ordered books
printed because they want to shop the property around Hollywood).
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:51 am
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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Thanks
Erik. Oh, so I see...you can tell before hand by pre-orders if
you should even bother printing it. I get it now.
What about a minimum print run, though? Is there one? Or like I
was saying, could you really print as little as 500 to a 1000
books? Or print just a little over what was actually ordered,
thereby reducing the chances for an over-print? |
You really can't print that few books without losing money. If we get
into a real situation we can outline the options. There are a lot of
variables depending on the printer we use, paper stock, page count,
cover price and all the rest. I can't throw out a number here that fits
for every situation.
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:13 pm
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McKlyde wrote: |
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1-- is it
necessary to get my stuff officialy copyrighted before i submit
it, or is that something that can be postponed to later, if i
were lucky enough to get my idea green lit.
2-- not really a procedure question, but out of curiosity... do
you often get submissions where the artwork of the sequential
pages is great, but may be overhyped (that meaning, too much
time and focus and effort, unrealistic on what can be produced
on an actual schedule), that if green lit, the quality of the
final product falls short of what the submission promised. What
do you do with ones that may be like that. (note: mine is not
one of those... but the art is still good) |
1: No. And we wouldn't know if anybody had copyrighted their story.
2: Not often, no. Most just suck--period. The ones that are well-drawn
generally stay that way.
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Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:02 am
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Erik, why
should one submit their creations to Image rather than, say,
Alias, AP, Avatar or Darkhorse.
Are there benefits that Image can offer over those comic
publishers, and if so, what? |
I don't know what their deals are--but I do know that most take some
kind of merchandising and entertainment rights. We don't. I also know
that the farther back you are in that Diamond catalogue the harder it is
get decent orders. Many stores buy from the "big four" and stop there.
Considering how many submissions we get from creators at the above
companies (many of whom would like to move their books to Image) I think
it's pretty safe to say that we're giving people a fair shake.
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Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:29 pm
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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I'm in the
process of lettering a book, but I was wondering: do the
creators have to worry about pre-production/pre-press stuff or
does someone at Image handle all of that?
I know that different printers have different specifications, so
is there some standard page sizes, etc., that Image requires? Or
at this point should I not worry about that and just send you
something that you can read? Or should I be sizing the pages to
the correct production size and have them ready-to-print?
If you have a standard page size, please let me know. I was
asking around in some other threads and Kep! gave some numbers:
6.875 x 10.437 for a full bleed page and that the letters should
fit within 6.125 x 9.687.
Anyway, I just want to know if this is important at the
beginning stages or not. I'd hate to find out later that I have
to redo all of the lettering because of some technical detail. |
Most comics from most companies are the same in terms of their size. We
do have folks that handle things and they're more than happy to talk
people through stuff.
And keep the lettering in a different layer if you're really concerned
about it. It is an area where many creators fall short.
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:56 pm
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mocktales wrote: |
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Erik:
(Or anyone else) Wondering if I could get an industry opinion;
Does size matter.... when it comes to number of story pages in a
book. (Minus the ads) Basically do you think that a double-sized
first issue is a gamble for an unknown book and team? Or even
continuing the series between 32-48 pages a book? I definately
understand the work load too, so I'm not going to be one of
those guys who get caught off guard wanting to draw that many
pages. Also, I am curious if there is an ideal page amount
you as a professional
are comfortable working with?
On an additional note, I hear constantly from some editors; "If
it sells, we usually don't care how many pages the book is." But
then others are telling me, "Never go above 28 pages, or you're
asking for print costs to bite you in the ass." So either
opinion seems to catch me off guard. One seems too hesitant and
the other not really caring about my book at all. |
I think--as long as readers feel that the comic they read was
worthwhile--size doesn't matter. FELL reads like a book twice its
length. I've read 48-page comics with less happening and less
characterization. If you're padding your story to have it fit
48-pages--what good is that? If you're leaving a lot of cool stuff on
the cutting room floor in order to make it fit in 22-pages--what good is
that?
It's YOUR STORY. How many pages do you need to tell YOUR STORY?
If it's good--chances are--readers will buy it. Sometimes they
don't--but if it's REALLY GOOD--they generally will.
No single format is a guaranteed winner.
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:05 pm
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fyifoff wrote: |
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Well
Redjack, I can see you wish
NEVER want to break into comics. Because from a business
end: you need to know why before know how!
Because Diamond isn't the 'god' of selling comics...
There are less locations but the comic world is still making
billions!
think, 48 states with DC is 49. Break NYC off NY(+1), TX in 2
and cali into 3 that's 55 (states) or areas. Say you want to
make 30,000 a year. That's 12 months/issues a year or $2500.00 a
month. Say you can only get .50 cents an issue each month you
need to sell 5000 issues. That's 90 issues or [divide by 48 is
105]
Diamond will work direct with you but you need 2500 issues a
month in sales. Hmmm, half way there...
other then having a good comic, it seems just having it with
Diamond, REDJACK, means
it could be rather easy...
and bankable... |
You guys keep trying to do the math and you CAN'T DO THE MATH. You have
no information. You don't know how much it costs in order for the
printer to start their presses. You don't know anything.
You can't start with a list of page rates. Everybody in this process has
got to come to grip with the reality that this is a back end deal. Agree
on a split before the process begins. The writer will get X%, the artist
XX%, the letterer Y%, the colorist Z%. It's a calculated risk, to be
sure, but if the work is outstanding--it really ISN'T. It CAN and DOES
work ALL THE TIME.
Don't drive yourself crazy. Don't count your chickens before they're
hatched.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:21 am
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two arm bandit wrote: |
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A.Huerta wrote: |
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two arm bandit
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If we are just
cutting you a check each month for the flat rate
do we still need to put together a submission
package?. |
... yes you have to like everyone else. |
I have spoken to several other publishers that dont quite have
the coverage in terms on brand recognition that image does that
wouldnt require the normal means of getting a project approved
if we were the ones paying for it. There would be little to no
financial risk to Image and a guarenteed packcheck every month
from us.
The submission thread did not cover this specific situation and
was just wanting to find out from an employee from Image that
could clarify this.
You may be correct and thank you for trying to be helpful but it
we would like to hear from an Image rep. just to make sure. |
Whoever told you that was incorrect. EVERY book we publish must be
approved by me. There are no back doors into the company. There are no
special cases. It doesn't matter if you offer to pay the bills. Image is
a company owned by its founders and we don't want any books that will
hurt our company or damage our brand. We're NOT going to green light a
book that we don't feel is worthy.
--And that's not to say that we've been 100% happy with everything that
we've published in the past--but rather--we've learned from our
mistakes.
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:45 am
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Gonzogoose wrote: |
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With the
mock cover do you just need to see the art or you need to see a
fully lettered mock cover with logo and box placements? Thanks.
EDIT - Well I answered my own question I think. The new
guidelines talk about the logo, so I assume it should at least
be on the cover. What about box placement and any additional
lettering on the cover? Any need for that at this point?
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Whatever you feel is necessary. Sell me on your book as best you can.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:41 pm
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spawn5061 wrote: |
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hey erik,
we'll we get to have a letter column in our book. |
I think you meant to say, "Hey Erik, will we get to have a letter column
in our book?" and the answer is--of course--provided you DO in fact have
a book and you actually receive mail.
But that's nothing which should concern you at this point. Worry about
letters columns AFTER your book is approved.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:16 pm
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Mega Man wrote: |
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What type
of inking style would be considered acceptable for a black and
white book? |
It doesn't matter. It just has to look good.
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:17 am
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Mega Man wrote: |
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Inking has
been quite difficult for me, and it's also equally difficult to
find a style that works for me. But until then, I hope to
develop it so I can finally have the confidence to send a
submission to Image. |
There are a lot of artists that have been in the business for years and
are STILL "searching for their style" --myself among them. It's not
unusual to struggle with this stuff. A typical page from Savage Dragon
could look any number of ways inked--all depends on how I helt like
inking it when the time came to ink it. It might look completely
different if I inked it the following day. The important thing is that
YOU'RE happy with it.
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:45 am
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dumb angry drunk wrote: |
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Hi, I'm new
here. I too had an inking question. I'm not much of an inker, so
I've been experimenting with laying colors directly over the
pencils. My pencils are very tight and clean, with a lot of
extra fine detail and shading to add variance in the shades of
color. Occasionlly I will ink a few lines to really bring a
certain aspect out, but for the most part, I let my pencils
shine through the colors. I know this has been done on several
comics before in the past and has actually looked good, if not
better than some of the inked comics out there. |
I have not found that to be the case--but really--the end result is all
that matters. If it looks awesome--who CARES how it got to look that
way?
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:45 pm
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CosmicPencil wrote: |
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1. My book
that I am working on has cover by guest artists. Now on the
submission rules it says that this will show that you know how
to design a cover or something like that...so what is your, I
guess 'opinion' on guest cover artists? Good thing/bad
thing/neutral? |
If they're good--and they represent the quality of the book--awesome.
If, however, you think you can get a sub-par book green lit because of a
tasty Adam Hughes cover--forget it! We still want the insides to kick
ass.
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CosmicPencil wrote: |
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2. I am
planning on submitting my own stuff, but let's say further down
the road that I want to do a mini about one of YOUR characters,
for instance Star...or better yet, submitting to do back up
stories like the stuff Anoma Lee is doing. Are the submissions
anything different? |
You'd have to contact me about it. I don't let folks do whatever they
want with my characters. Generally, how things work is that somebody
shows me their stuff and if I like it--we talk through a story and I'll
send off some sort of outline. The back up stories in Savage Dragon are
NOT PAYING GIGS. The only thing you get out of it is exposure and
practice.
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:31 am
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Andrew West wrote: |
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sometimes
no response is the response. |
Generally--it means we've got a million OTHER things to do. Unless a
person includes no contact info (or have no e-mail address and DON'T
include an S.A.S.E. ) they should--eventually--hear SOMETHING.
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:47 pm
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Elton Robb wrote: |
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I'm also
new here, although I went through a Super-Hero phase ten years
ago (even sent something to Eric, here! It was, wisely,
rejected). Right now, I'm into d20 Design but I recognize the
cross over potential of having my own comic. Yeah, I have a
question to ask of you, Eric. I've been going over your
submission guidelines, and is it true that I need somebody to be
a partner in crime -- uh -- collaborator to do drawings and
stuff? |
Yes. Without pictures--these wouldn't be very good comics.
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:27 am
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tank wrote: |
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I have a
question...
Obviously Image is a COMIC book publisher, but is it interested
in publishing materials that are more hybrid work? I know the
guidelines ask for specifics on whether it is possible a graphic
novel or prestige format book...
I'm trying to think of a good example. IDW did a mostly prose
book by Steve Niles, with only a bit of art. Or maybe something
like Signal To Noise, or McKean's Pictures That Tick.
Am I making any sense? |
We've done a few other things--posters, portfolios, prose books and
other things. That having been said--a prose book would be a hard sell
to ME as Publisher unless it was written by a writer with serious chops
and a terrific track record. Alan Moore wants to write a book--? Sure,
I'd be all over that--but the LAST thing I want is to start getting
manuscripts from fans. Those go straight into the trash.
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:08 pm
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Creon wrote: |
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1- Is it
necessary to trademark a project or the title of the project
before to submit it to Image Comics? And if not, How that work
when a project is green lighted, Is it Image itself that
trademark the title or is this the owners/creators who have to
do it?
2-The trademark seems to be an american specificity, so, if it's
the owners job, what are their possibilities to trademark from
France for exemple? |
1. You don't have to register a trademark. If you want to later
on--that's up to you. we don't do that. It's not our property--it's
yours.
2. I'm not entirely sure. You'd have to talk to somebody that has more
information than I do. I do know that a LOT of people don't register
their trademarks at all. It isn't
necessary.
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:13 am
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Sean C wrote: |
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I just have
a quick question. When Image accepts a project and green-lights
it, how long are you willing to wait for the project to be
completed? I know that Image will hold off on a project until
several issues are completed in order to release a book on a
regular basis, but how just how long are you willing to wait? Is
there a limit to Image's patience, or do they give the creator
as much time as they need? |
There's no limit.
It's your book, after all and we aren't paying you up front to do it.
So, it's really up to the creators involved. We have nothing to lose by
waiting.
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:18 am
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Creon wrote: |
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Your
informations are really helpful in my case.
Now i'm sure that the registering of the project is not
something absolutly necessary. That's something i could manage
later if that become really important... but not now. Here the
goal is to do a good book... my main concern. |
As it should be.
There are cases where I've registered names and cases where I haven't.
Savage Dragon has that lovely ® next to it--Freak Force doesn't (and it
wasn't from lack of trying--at the time I tried to register the
trademark for Freak Force, Malibu comics had registered a trademark on
their book Freex and the folks
at the trademark office felt that the titles were too similar).
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:54 am
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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Dear Mr.
Larsen,
Forgive me if this has been asked before. If an Imprint accepts
my submission (for example, SilentDevil or Across the Pond) and
pitches it to you guys -- will it usually get looked at for
consideration before (or typically sooner) than the regular,
unpublished creator submitted, slush pile?
I understand that being an Imprint does not guarantee that Image
will greenlight everything they pitch and that titles they picth
still have to uphold to the highest creative standards -- but I
was just wondering if going through an imprint will get your
submission looked at a bit sooner -- as it has already gone
through the Imprints filter.
Thanks! |
Please don't submit to both. And it depends--I'm trying to get caught
up. Really, I am. I responded to about 20 just today--uh, yesterday...
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:32 pm
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Brewers wrote: |
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You have
said that creative teams decide whether to run a backup story in
their book and if so get to choose what one if they want. Does
this mean that if I (and my creative team) have a story we feel
would be a good backup story, should we contact the creators of
a particular book directly or submit it to you through the
regular submissions process and if you think it's worthy you
will show it to different creative teams (who then decide for
themselves if they want to include it) yourself? Thanks. |
Contact the creators of a particular book directly.
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Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:35 pm
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Jason A. Quest wrote: |
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You don't
need to ask permission to carry a submission package of your
work around with you at a con. It's your arm. The point is that
you shouldn't expect any publisher to take it from you and carry
it around for the rest of the con and then home. |
It's FINE to bring stuff to cons--it's a great place to get feedback and
you can always show it to US to get feedback--just don't expect US to
carry it around for you. If we like it--we'll generally ask you to mail
it in to us.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:23 am
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Jason A. Quest wrote:
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shushubag wrote:
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MisterGreenThumb wrote: |
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shushubag wrote: |
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Thanks again.
I don't want to get into an
argument about why I didn't
see the clear answer to my
question each time. I
honestly think that's why
the thread is 56 pages long.
I have read the 56 pages but
in small incriments as they
came in. I can't remember
what was said that's all. I
read the submission
guidelines over and over
again. I guess I just wasn't
clear on what the story that
happens within your
submission. I know what the
one page synopsis is.
I guess my concern is, will
the 5 page submission be a
part of the story you want?
Or is it the story that will
be told compiled into 5
pages?
Try not to get irritated
with me, still wet behind
the ears. |
The five pages of penciled and inked
sequentials are only a small part of
your overall story. For example, I
submitted a proposal for a 5-issue
miniseries (that's 22 pages of art
per issue or 110 pages total when
finished). My 1-page synopsis
outlines the whole story from the
first page (page 1, issue #1)
through the last page on the last
issue (page 22, issue #5). My 5
pages of art are the first five
pages from issue #1. You don't have
to send in the first 5 pages of the
story -- just five
sequential/consecutive pages. Think
of the 1-page synopsis and the 5
pages of art as two separate items.
Your art is a tiny slice of the
story brought to life for all to see
visually. Your 1-page synopsis is
the whole pie. Make sense? Any other
questions? |
Thank you MisterGreenThumb you hit the nail
on the head. That's exactly what I wanted to
know. I didn't know it was 5 pages per
issue. I thought once you submit your 5
pages that if it got greenlit then you can
send in everything you have.
But thanks that really helps.
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No, that's not what he said. He just said "5 pages".
I don't know if you're overthinking this or
underthinking this or what, but either way you're
confusing yourself. So forget the generalizations;
here's what I think you should in
your case:
Send them a copy of the whole first issue. You say
you have five issues done, which is more than they
need to see at first, but they don't mind seeing
more than 5 pages (a fact that the submissions
guidelines spell out very plainly), so give them an
entire issue.
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It sounds as though "shushubag" just read
this thread and not the actual
submission guidelines. If that
is the case--he should click
HERE:
http://www.imagecomics.com/submissions.php
If that's NOT the case--I don't
know why he's so confused.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:23 pm
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tank wrote: |
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so you're
saying we have to submit 5 pages from each of the first 5
issues, which shouldd be 25 pages each because 5 x 5 is 25? |
We need to see FIVE TOTAL PAGES.
FIVE.
NOT five per issue--FIVE.
FIVE total pages--PERIOD.
If you want to send more--that's fine. But what we require is FIVE TOTAL
PAGES.
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:57 pm
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Munch wrote: |
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Should the
synopsis be double spaced? |
It doesn't matter.
Seriously--people are waaaaaay over-thinking this. We're not going to
reject an awesome book because it was or wasn't double spaced. The most
important part here are those five pages. If they suck there's nothing
you can say or do to get your book approved. Polite intro letters,
impolite intro letters, double spacing, no double spacing--it really
doesn't matter.
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:08 am
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PatrickG wrote: |
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Do you
always give an up or down yes or no? |
No.
Sometimes the answer is "maybe."
It may be that I like parts of it but not other parts--the writing may
be a bit stilted, the lettering lousy and the colors drab but if there
are other parts that shine--it may mean that I'll say, "if you can fix
THESE problems--we may have a book."
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PatrickG wrote: |
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For
instance, I went with flat colors. I could have gone with some
of the top guys in the industry but they wanted several hundred
in cash to work on the book. |
That is fine. Encouraged, even. Often folks will send in stuff, which is
black and white. That's fine as well. As long as you don't have AWFUL
colors that destroy your art--it's fine.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I'm not
gonna deny that their work might make for a much snazzier
looking project but it's not something I would want to commit to
on a book that hasn't been greenlit whose projected
sales/profits I don't know.
Would you ever suggest a writer resubmitting with a different
artist or provisional approval based on, say, different
coloring? |
Yes. Although often if the art is incredibly amateurish--that alone
kills it. If it looks like it was tossed together by ten-year olds, it
gets rejected without every line of dialogue being read.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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There are
people out there recruiting talent by claiming that their books
are provisionally approved pending a new artist or whatever and
I'm wondering if it really happens. |
Seldom.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I'd imagine
you could, say, look at a book and suggest that it needs better
inking.
I'm going in intent on giving you the best product I can to
review.
But I'm curious as to whether approval is strictly up or down or
if you can look at something that's 99.999% GREAT, that REALLY
stands out from the crappier submissions, and say, "This is
great. Fix these two things and we'll talk." |
See above. In most cases--if it's a yes--it's a conditional yes. Often
there will be at least one item that needs fixing. I just got a pitch
for, what could be, a decent series written and drawn by established
professionals--but their title was nearly impossible to pronounce and
that sort of thing can seriously effect sales. So the answer was,
"Yes--IF you change the title."
It happens.
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Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:17 am
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Jettison wrote: |
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This is a
pretty "out there" question....
I know I'm not the only person around here that is really
inspired by what Mario Gully has been up to with his comic.
Bringing in major players from the original Image U, and really
making it seem like "home" again....So my question is, how much
attention must be paid to continuity details if I wanted, say,
my submission to leave the door open for crossovers with major
Image characters? I realize how precise and timeline sensitive
Dragon has been these past 10 years....so I'm wondering...if my
comic takes place on Earth in the present, and god willing,
people enjoyed it enough, are there certain guidelines I would
have to adhere to if I wanted to entertain that possibility? |
Not really--just say you'd like it set in the Image Universe--and then
read my rant about how the Image Universe works over at
www.comicbookresources.com (or click here:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=ofo&article=2304
) to get an idea of how the Image Universe works (or doesn't work).
As long as your characters CAN exist in a shared universe--they CAN fit
in here. If you're doing a book and it's iimportant that everybody on
Earth is made out of bees or that your characters are the first
superheroes to ever appear anywhere or something that's simply too
restrictive to work than forget it. But if you're coming in with the
idea of WANTING to be part of a shared universe--you may be in luck.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:18 pm
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Mega Man wrote: |
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Just a
question I'd like to ask to get your honest opinion:
What do you think about a comic series about sports, say a
series about a baseball drama? I have not seen a baseball comic
done by American creators, but I know that they have been done.
My inspiration comes from some of my favorite mangas such as
"Touch," and "H2," which are classical icons in Japan.
My question is, how do you feel about this type of subject? And
also, from your experience, will a comic about baseball have
potential to be successful with Image comics? |
It would have to above and beyond insanely good to succeed in the United
States. That's a damned tough sell.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:48 pm
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innocentboy wrote: |
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No.
Sometimes the answer is "maybe."
It may be that I like parts of it but not other
parts--the writing may be a bit stilted, the lettering
lousy and the colors drab but if there are other parts
that shine--it may mean that I'll say, "if you can fix
THESE problems--we may have a book."
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but in the submissions info ... it says Image maybe able to find
a colourist for you to negotiate with ... can we just include in
the cover letter something like, "if i'm accepted, would be nice
for Image to find me a colourist to re-colour the book? or to
start the colouring chores on the issues that aren't already in
the can?" |
You can always submit it in black and white--and that's preferable to
bad colors.
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:13 pm
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Raff wrote: |
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I'd like to
know what this means for someone like myself that has been
waiting 4 months now. Does this mean my submission got lost or
that it's passed the first gate and is in the "to be determined
pile" or what?
I would hope submissions are looked at in the order that Image
received them in the mail and are not just piled so that the
last one received gets looked at first because it's on top.
 |
Often it means--we're considering it or trying to determine a way to
make it work. Other times--it's simply been misplaced.
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:58 pm
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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Hey...what
happened to my post?? Was it somehow breaking the new rules? I
didn't post anything about my submission, like pages or links to
a website or anything. Weird. It was just a post about the
rejection e-mail I received and what I would possibly do to
improve the book. So why was it deleted so swiftly? |
You know that legal mumbo jumbo at the bottom of the e-mail that says
"This communication (including any information herein and any
attachments hereto) is intended only for the person or entity to whom it
is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure. Blah, blah,
blah"?
That means it's NOT cool to copy and post it.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:30 am
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jai_nitai wrote: |
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...and now
my reply to Erik's last post has been deleted! What the heck's
going on here?! You's people is really clamping down around
here, almost to the point of being ridiculous...
And if you're reading this post now, check back later and it
will magically be gone! POOF!
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This topic is, in general, the one most pruned because:
1. it's long--
2. it's important to a lot of people
3. posts like this add absolutely nothing worthwhile. They waste space
and waste time.
We get thousands of submissions. When they're responded to it's not
uncommon to use some of the same words or phrases. That's life. We do
our best to respond to each individually but there are bound to be
similar letters sent from time to time. We can't help that. There are
only so many ways to tell folks that they need to work on it without
getting downright obnoxious about it.
Okay...?
Now--if there are any more actual QUESTIONS...
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:05 pm
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tank wrote: |
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I have an
idea I am thinking of submitting, but it plays with page format
and construction a bit. Similar to what the Clockmaker (i think
it was called that) did. There would be some fold-outs, and
possible die-cut shapes.
I know how to set this sort of thing up for production, but what
is the best way to present it? Should I make full size mock-ups
with tape and what not, or provide an exploded view, or both?
I know the story, concept and art are the basis of how the
project would be judged, but I just want to sort of illustrate
the physicality of the project. |
Just tell me what it would be--but in all honesty--most of that kind of
stuff is fairly cost prohibitive. It's really expensive to do that kind
of stuff and to the reader--it's not worthwhile. They just want to read
a comic book--they don't want to have to spend an extra $1.50 to read it
because the creator thought it would be cool to have a hole punched
through it.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:24 pm
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DanicaBlade wrote: |
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If a
submission is accepted, what happens if the original artist
drops out, or a colorist is added? |
It's back to square one if the artist drops out. It would be a different
story if the book was underway--if there were a few issues out then we'd
all scramble to help find a suitable replacement but if you pitch a book
saying Jim Lee is drawing it--it's not cool to swap in your high school
chum and think it's okay.
The colorist is not as big a deal.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:57 am
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demon-love wrote: |
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Gonzogoose wrote: |
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Hey
guys, just wanted you to know I heard from Erik today on
my submission.
...Erik is actually pretty nice with his
reviews, at
least in my case. |
I also heard back fast; within 5 days of sending my submission.
Also rejected, but yeah, only took 5 days (sent from Canada
too). Although I didnt get any 'reviews' or feedback or anything
for mine, sounded more like an automated response or something,
which sucked more than getting rejected...
Oh well, back to the drawing board. |
Nothing's "automated" but when you're dealing with a mess of submissions
there are bound to be familiar phrases that get used again and again.
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:07 pm
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PatrickG wrote: |
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Once
submitted, is a concept damaged good or do people ever rework
something from the ground up and successfully resubmit? |
The latter. And sometimes several people will try the same idea--it
happens. Just because a book isn't approved it doesn't mean the idea
behind it is bad.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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The process
of putting together my submission was a learning experience in
many ways. The quick rejection suggests there's a lot broken... |
Well, yeah...
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PatrickG wrote: |
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But if I
took the basic premise and characters from my rejected pitch and
really tinkered with making it something different... and I went
for a new team from the ground up...
Would that make a difference?
On one hand, what's done is done. If you didn't like it, I don't
want to offer another helping of something that left a sour
taste in your mouth. |
Most often things are rejected quickly because the work isn't polished
enough. It looks crude or unprofessional. If that part can be brought up
to snuff--and the idea itself is sound--by all means try it again.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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On the
other hand, your Savage Dragon concept evolved considerably over
the years culminating in massive changes before it appeared at
Image. |
It did indeed. And had I received a submission from myself at ages 15 or
25 years old I might very well have rejected it. That doesn't mean the
idea was bad--but that the execution was bad.
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PatrickG wrote: |
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I realize
Image isn't in the business of taking in extreme fixer uppers.
But I'd like to think a pitch that had a dozen things wrong with
it had a dozen things right too... And that while the things
that were wrong might lead to rejection, a fresh start building
off the basics of the rejected pitch MIGHT have a go.. |
It might indeed.
On the other hand--do keep in mind that serious work must be done in
order for it to make the grade. There's one guy who has submitted the
same awful pitch over and over again and every time his solution is to
change the name or add spots to a character's costume as if THAT was
what was holding his book back. It's not as simple as that. If your book
gets turned down you need to make some serious effort to change that
around.
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Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:08 pm
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sacredsin wrote: |
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Erik, do
bi-monthly comics sell as well as monthly?
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No.
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:40 am
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labyrinth wrote: |
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Erik, what
would happen, if say, you received a proposal where the art
wasn't good enough for it to be accepted but the pitch and story
was extremely impressive and one of the best ideas you'd ever
come accross.
? |
It would be rejected.
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:31 am
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Chris Piers wrote: |
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Erik, what
about if the story was equally bad? Then what would happen? |
I'd forward it to Alias.
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Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:22 am
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sacredsin wrote: |
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Erik, is it
okay to post images on this thread, you know, that will be
included in propasal? |
No.
if you want to send in a proposal--please do so--but this thread is here
to answer questions only. It's not to post proposals or images from
them.
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Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:23 am
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tank
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I got
one for you Erik...
Would Image shy away from a book that may have controversial
politics? I'm sure your base answer is "depends how good it is,"
but let's just assume for a moment that you are pleased as punch
by both story and art. is there a politic or dogmatic line that
you wouldn't be comfortable with crossing? I mean short of the
obvious things like THE ADVENTURES OF CAPTAIN KLANSMAN...
Obviously, most of us on this board, and most of Image's
creators, are liberal-- does that mean you'd be more prone to
publishing works that aren't afriad to criticize our government?
Or opposed to publishing a book that embraces it in a scary way?
What about religion? |
You answered it already. It depends how good it is.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:54 am
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Monk wrote: |
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I honestly
couldn't bring myself to read every single post in this thread,
so if the question I'm about to ask has been asked and answered
already, then just ignore this post and I'll try to find the
answer.
I read in the faq on the Image website that the creators of the
comics published by image maintain all the rights themselves.
All the copyright information and trademarks belong to the
writers/artists. But do the creators of the comic have to make
the copyright themselves, i.e. buy the patent for their
property, or does Image handle this for them?
What if I submit a comic proposal that I didn't put any
copyright on, and it's given the green light - can some random
person then just walk up and buy the trademark for the
characters/title/etc. and then I'm basically screwed? |
It's your property--so you need to take care of registering the
trademark. If you put a "Copyright ©2006 your-name-here" in the indicia
and a little ™ next to the logo you're in pretty good shape--and nobody
is going to outright steal your character--it's too risky. But to REALLY
protect the name of your character--you would need to register the title
so that you can slap a little ® next to the logo and let everybody know
that you're protected.
Still--it's NOT as big a deal as you might think--and many creators
don't bother to register anything. A good many books have a little ™
instead of an ® next to their logo. It is, however, against the law to
use an ® unless you go through the process and pay to register your
title--so don't use it if you don't have it! Still, the vast majority of
books will start off with just a ™ even at the biggest company.
The bottom line is--worry about that crap when it comes up. It shouldn't
keep you from creating NOW and you certainly don't need to have
registered your trademark before you submit your proposal.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:56 am
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the_poet wrote: |
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Erik,
Not sure if you're allowed to answer this, but out of all the
brand-new projects published through Image in 2005, what
percentage actually made even a little profit for the creators
involved? |
Almost all of them.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:49 pm
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nick filardi wrote: |
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Erik Larsen wrote: |
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The colorist is not as big a deal. |
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Oh--I didn't mean it like THAT. My point is that it's possible to get a
book approved without having a colorist lined up where it's NOT possible
to get one approved without a penciller lined up. A great colorist can
make good art even BETTER--but a great colorist can't make lousy art
into great art. You can't polish a turd.
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:10 am
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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Will you
look at multiple titles in a submission package? or is it better
to send one at a time? |
Multiple pitches is fine--but most often people don't get two pitches
ready at the same time. There's no sense waiting to submit them both at
once. There's no advantage to submitting two projects at once.
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Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:04 am
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rob allan wrote: |
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It used to
be that if your book was published through another company
first, it was advantageous toward getting a book published
through a larger company like Image. However, a company that's
interested in my book ultimately retains the rights to
reprinting any issues I do through them, to include TPBs. This
sounds standard, but does this type of thing actually HURT the
chance of moving to a larger publisher like Image? I'm thinking
perhaps the old way of thinking may not apply to the industry
today. Image does business differently than when it started, but
I know others (example Mario Gully) have had titles through
other publishers and moved. |
It could hurt you if you didn't do a pretty major overhaul. I don't know
if you read the old Ant series but it was about a young girl and Ant was
a character in her diary--she was a character in her mind. In the Image
series, Mario reinvented Ant so that she's an adult and the stuff with
her as a kid is her past--she IS Ant. And it's really not necessary to
have read the old series.
Where things might get screwy is if the series you did IS important and
if we're picking up the book mid-stream. That would hurt your book.
We've picked up books that had been started elsewhere and we simply
continued and in some cases, not having available back issues has
hampered sales. Old publishers can get shitty. If you've left them in
the lurch and they have rights to print your stuff--they could
essentially make it impossible for a reader to get the full story if
they chose to. Sometimes things are clean--other times they're dirty.
Rocketo was clean. We'll do a trade that collects the previous series
and then pick things up after that. That seems to be working out well.
Another book we're publishing, on the other hand, was picked up with #2
and the first issue is out of print. That certainly couldn't have helped
its sales. A reader wants the full story. A retailer wants them to have
the full story. I would have preferred to have had it start with a first
issue--perhaps the same one that had sold out only expanded on. But it's
a tough call--and it wasn't MY call. Starting off a new book with a
reprint isn't an optimal situation either. Sometimes it's not easy.
PvP, Liberty Meadows and Jack Staff all started off at different
publishers and there have been a number of others.
It really comes down to the book.
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:06 am
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fyifoff wrote: |
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Are these four things true or false?
1-you can not copyright a name
2-you can copyright a comicbook character, including appreaence,
orgin, personality, etc..
3-character names are covered by trademarks
4-trademarks means you can't use it in a title.
(like cola, Pepsi fought Coke to use cola)
Does this
mean I couln't name my comic book say "Wolverine and Aurora"? Or
some other simple named characters?
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1-3 are true--and kind of. It's easiest to trademark combinations of
words (Spider + Man = Spider-Man) but part of a trademark is the
tradedress. The way Superman's logo is written makes it a trademark but
you could title a story "Man or Superman?" and as long as it was clear
that you WEREN'T talking about THE Superman--you'd be okay.
THIS wouldn't be okay...
But the actual cover to FF #249 (it had Gladiator in Superman's place
and the actual Superman logo wasn't used) was fine.
It gets messy when you try to fool people into thinking that you're
publishing comics about established characters. Marvel would object to
you using Wolverine and might make your life difficult but if your
character was called Wolverine Jones and it was obvious he was NOT their
Wolverine you MIGHT be able to get away with it. They would have to make
the case that the name Wolverine is so clearly identified with Marvel
that nobody should be able to use it. I know that they were successful
in getting Marvel Man changed to Miracle Man when Eclipse Comics started
reprinting and continuing the adventures of that character--they might
be able to make a strong case for Wolverine as well.
It's best NOT to push it. If you're NOT trying to fool people--why use
the name? Pick something else.
And Wolverine Jones™ is © 2006
Erik Larsen--don't even think about using it or I'll have my lawyers on
you in a heartbeat.
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:09 am
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trialsze wrote: |
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I was just
curious, Erik, what do you feel is appealing to comics audiences
today. What do you consider a good book to reach the most
targeted audience; males 13 to 24?
I know these might seem like weird questions but it could help
me understand what you believe moves the market and is good for
comics. I am trying to see the industry as a business as well as
an artistic avenue, so I would like to focus on a pitch that has
the ability to survive in the industry. Your knowledge would
help me in creating a pitch or product that will see the light
of day. |
I would suggest telling a story that you want to tell rather than trying
to target a certain demographic. What do YOU have to SAY?
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:23 am
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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I have a
question regarding marketing and advertsing.
Say you have said Aris we want to publish your book, and we had
three issues in the can and it was time to solicit.
Does Image automatically take space in Previews. Do you discuss
with the creators possible adverts in trade mags(wizard as an
example), and place full pagers in other image books for a few
months leading to the date the books actually come out.
If you do, is this an added expense? That the creators pay after
and if the books printed sell? Or is this part and parcle of
Image publishing your books?
Also, is there any policy regarding ad space in the title
itself. Can I advertise what I want, more pages of image titles?
Other publishers? My friends band? Or is Image in total control
of this, and after receiving the finished pages decides how many
pages of ads are placed in the book, where they are placed,
including inside cover and back of the book? |
Ads in Previews are part of our deal with you. Generally, ads are traded
in Image Comics. If you're running an ad for Small Gods in your
book--Small Gods will run an ad for you. Sometimes it's more of an ad
pool--an ad for Gødland runs in your book, an ad for your book runs in
Invincible, an ad for Invincible runs in Gødland or so on. There's no
charge for Image "house ads."
Ads in other publications are a different story. If you want to drop
$5,000 for an ad in Wizard it's going to come out of your pocket. We
take a flat fee off of the comics we publish and we'd be in the hole in
no time flat if we had to foot the bill for ads in Wizard magazine and
not get reimbursed.
We have the right to decide what ads are run in our books. Generally we
don't allow creators to run ads for comics from some other comic book
company. But this is all talked about when the books are being put
together. If you can't stand Savage Dragon--we won't force you to run an
ad for Savage Dragon.
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:52 pm
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trialsze wrote: |
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Erik Larsan
wrote:
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I
would suggest telling a story that you want to tell
rather than trying to target a certain demographic. What
do YOU have to SAY? |
I am not sure what you are telling me here. I am getting
confused. In some posts on this thread it was said to look at
this as a business and not as my own personal playground. And
that is why I asked you those questions. I believe you have to
know your audience to have a successful product. You have to
supply them with something they want and/or need. The first
person you have to sell the product to is you. You are the one
that will decide wether or not the book/product will even see
the light of day. You are the boss. That is why I believe your
opinion about what is selling and what is not selling is more
valuable then mine. Even if I like the pitch and loved the book
doesn't mean it is something that can survive in this cut throat
market. You have better insight into the market or you would not
be where you are today. I am just looking for a little guidance
into your world. What type of products appeal to you and give
you the sense that they will succeed? So myself and my team do
not spend six months on a pitch that isn't even close to what
you feel will make it into this market. I just don't want to
make any uninformed decision. I also understand that this is my
creator owned product and I should do the stories I want to
tell, but for me to tell those stories I have to get them to
your standard first. Your insight will help me put together a
pitch that will appeal to you and Image. If this is something
that you are uncomfortable giving your opinion on, I understand,
and thank you for your time and quick response. |
If that's the case--I'd recommend you pitch Spider-Man--because people
seem to want Spider-Man comics.
The honest answer is--ANYTHING can succeed IF it's well done. Stories
with some action and tension seem to do better than superhero parody
books but there's no one subject matter that will insure success.
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:02 pm
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trialsze wrote: |
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And that is
not an honest answer. Not anything will make it in this market.
Even if it is well done. There are hundreds of books a year that
are produced well and never make it. Never get a fan base or
never get a publisher to push them. If you don't believe that go
to a show and walk artist alley for twenty minutes. You will see
some hot stuff that will never see print. |
I've walked around artists' alley more time than I can count and I've
NOT seen a lot of "hot stuff" that will "never see print." I've seen a
lot of mediocre stuff that has potential. The best of the best WILL find
an audience AND a publisher willing to take a chance on them. Most
artists' alley stuff isn't as good as you paint it.
In regard to your initial query--you're asking for rules when there
aren't any rules. If we were to go by what sells well NOW--superhero
books that make sweeping changes in existing universes seem to be the
way to go--or superheroes--particularly ones with cool costumes that
have been around for 30 years or more. But that doesn't mean YOUR
superhero written and drawn by YOU will be a huge success.
The Walking Dead is going great guns but that doesn't mean MORE zombie
books would succeed. Liberty Meadows does great (when it comes out)--but
that doesn't mean YOUR humor book would do well.
Typically--superhero parody books have short lives and science fiction
is a hard sell and sports comics don't do well and I would think fishing
comics or golfing comics or romance or westerns would have a tough time
making it but if Frank Miller or Todd McFarlane decided to try their
hands at that--I'm guessing it might do pretty well. I can't tell you a
kind of book that YOU personally could make successful--I just can't.
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:28 am
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casey wrote: |
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In the
above messages you mentioned about "taking a chance" with
artists so I'm wondering if you guys would ever be willing to
take a chance on a really weird abstract - art type of comic.
Visual poetry, if you will.
Just curious. |
If a person was determined to do the least commercial book ever in terms
of its theme--it had better be incredibly well executed.
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Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:40 am
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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1. Can a
book submitted to you have a studio logo on the inside cover, or
ads for the studio in the book(I believe Artxilla did something
like this(?).
What I mean by inside cover is as part of the credits, like
"Produced by" or something like that, side by side with Penciled
by and Written by?
2. When Images publishes a book, does it own any part of the
Trademark? As an example, does a creative team have to consult
and get your apporval to sell a script to Nickolodean(I mangled
that spelling!!!) or to a toy company? Or is Image strickly
involved with getting the books to print and to the distributer? |
1. Yes. Often that is the case. You can't put it on the cover, however.
2. We do not own part of any creator's trademark. Never have. If you
sell your property as a toy, cartoon, movie or Happy Meal--we don't see
a dime.
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:02 am
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rbr wrote: |
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BECAUSE WE
RECEIVE SUCH A HIGH VOLUME OF SUBMISSIONS, NO UNSOLICITED
PROPOSALS/SUBMISSIONS WILL BE RETURNED WITHOUT A SELF-ADDRESSED
STAMPED ENVELOPE (and even then--it's unlikely).
Just to be clear -- if we
don't need our submission returned, we don't need to
include a SASE? Personally, I'd much prefer to hear back by
email, if that's an option. |
If you don't want it returned--don't include a SASE. Be warned, however,
that all submissions which aren't approved get thrown out. If you decide
after the fact that you want it back--you're shit out of luck. Unless
you include a self-addressed, stamped envelope, your rejected proposal
WILL BE THROWN OUT.
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:25 pm
Yeah, guys--it really ISN'T cool to spill specific terms
from Image contracts here.
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Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:17 pm
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Derek Ruiz wrote: |
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A.Huerta wrote: |
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williamroe wrote: |
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Hello.
I've been over your submissions page several
times, and a portion of this thread. It seems
that you're very clear and forthcoming on the
way Image works.
A publisher recently told me that he spoke with
an Image rep, and that person told him that when
a submission is accepted, Image charges $3000
up-front, publishes the book, and then takes the
balance of it's fee off the profit. This is very
different from everything else I've heard and
read, so is he just blowing smoke up my ass?
How much is the back-end fee? A general range
for a full color 22 page comic will do if it's
subject to change due to paper, etc.
Thank you.
William A. Roe |
When you get accepted , Image takes a XXXX fee per
issue. That comes out of the profits, along with
printing, and you get whatevers left over. The cool
thing is if your book has a nice story/concept and keeps
gaining readers you'll get alot more profit every month,
and the Image FEE STAYS THE SAME. So if you sold 4,000
copies they take the XXXX out of those sales or if you
sell 100,000 copies they still only take out XXXX and u
get the rest. |
Well I think you are right with what you are saying but i don't
think its the same amount for 4000 as it is for 100,000...it
probaly the same percentage. |
Image takes a flat fee from comic books and it's the SAME FEE regardless
of your sales. We do the same work on a book that sells 4000 as we do on
one that sells 100,000. We don't penalize one creator because his comic
book is more successful than another creator's comic book.
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Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:03 am
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shushubag wrote: |
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If a
submission is accepted and the book is completed, how long does
it take for the book to see print? In other words how long till
the book gets onto the store shelves. |
At least four months. It would need to get solicited and ordered and all
the rest.
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Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:08 am
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gut-rot wrote: |
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allright, i
hope im not just being dense here, but i've been hearing people
say "i got my story proposal accepted by image, so now i just
need an artist!" and stuff like that. does that mean i can send
in my story and see if it gets accepted, then go to doing the
art work and then see if THAT gets accepted? |
No.
WE
DON'T GREEN LIGHT PROPOSALS
WITHOUT ARTISTS ATTACHED--EVER.
There have been times when a book has been pitched and it HAD an artist
attached who dropped out--and sometimes the writers of those books
assume that it's okay to sign up any old artist and it's all the same to
us but those people are dead wrong. We NEED to approve a book WITH an
artist attached. If your artist splits--you're back to square one.
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Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:14 am
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St. George wrote: |
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I would
assume then, the book must be resubmitted as well if any other
member of the creative team (writer, colorist, inker, letterer)
were to bow out after the book had been accepted?
Sure, a creative team might not want the hassle of resubmitting,
but these guys/girls are also not interchangeable with the
average joe.
So if any member of the team is replaced it should be
resubmitted? If it should only be resubmitted after an artist
change that would be a double-standard I couldn't imagine Mr.
Larsen encouraging. I wouldn't want to imagine Mr. Larsen
stating that the rest of the team is trivial, he's too nice of a
guy.
 |
In most cases--the writer originated the project--so it's unlikely THAT
person is being replaced. If the writer pulls out--there IS NO
project--so there's hardly a double standard there.
The artist (penciller) is pretty key--an inker, less so--unless it's one
that can make or break a book--a Kevin Nowlan, Bill Sienkiewicz or Klaus
Janson. Decent colorists and letterers can generally be tracked down if
they're needed.
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Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:54 pm
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grail wrote: |
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is image
only confine to the traditonal size comic book size?i was just
wondering if you'll approve a book( being excellent of course in
writing and art
)
in large format size (8.5 X 11) ? |
We're up for anything, really--as long as it's really great.
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Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:39 am
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Wayne Nichols wrote: |
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What kinda
time frame can I expect to hear something after sending my pages
in? |
If they suck you'll hear back right away. If they're awesome--you'll
hear back right away. If they're in the middle--it may take longer.
Middle stuff needs more thinking--more tossing stuff back and forth...
"Well, what if they got a decent letterer--and a better colorist?"
"I dunno--the script is a little rough. The art looks okay but that
script's going to need some tweaks."
"You want to wade through all that and make notes?"
"I'm up to my ears today--put it in the stack and I'll get to it when I
can get to it."
And so it goes...
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Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:34 am
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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Is it ok to
post art(from submissions) in this thread? |
Please, no. This thread is long enough as it is. THIS FORUM isn't the
place to submit your work.
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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Do you want
to see the full scripts in the submission packages? Or just the
Beat sheets, synopsis, Bios, and pages(including cover)? |
You could certainbly include them--but not
in place of beat sheets--in
addition to them.
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:10 am
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Gank wrote: |
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I'd sent in
a submission a little more than 5 months ago but haven't yet
heard back. Should I assume it wasn't received and submit it
again? |
Yes.
And even if it WAS received--it doesn't hurt to remind us that you
haven't gotten a reply.
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Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:26 pm
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3'LL wrote: |
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Two
questions.
1. I'm not exactly sure of what you mean by beat sheets. Could
you please clarify.
2.I sent a submission that was recieved right before the first
of the year (I only know this from the postal tracking) that
included a fully colored and lettered nine page story, but no
cover. Is the fact that there is no cover image going to be
seriously frowned upon. |
1. A "beat sheet" is a synopsis.
2. Not if everything else is awesome.
The guidelines are just that--guidelines. If you can make your pitch in
some other way--that's fine too.
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Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:30 pm
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fyifoff wrote: |
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So if
someone like me, who likes to be a jerkass from time to
time...(hey it's a lot of fun) submits a comic book would you
shot it down simple because you know it came from a pain in the
rear? |
I wouldn't advise anybody to be a "jerkass" even if it's "fun" but the
bottom line, in regard to submissions, is the work itself. If the book
being pitched is a terrific book we'd be fools to pass on it.
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Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:11 am
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Hardcore14 wrote: |
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Would it be
a problem (legally) if I had several characters from the
"Arabian Nights" like Alladin or Sinbad in my pitch? I mean, the
original characters and not the Disney version. Thanks. |
You'd need to be VERY careful to make sure it looked NOTHING like the
Disney versions--but as long as characters are in public domain--there's
nothing stopping you from using them.
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Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:58 am
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Aris Argh! wrote: |
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Is there a
submission email? Or Aris shut up already and send out the
packages to the address on the "submission guide lines"? |
It's best to mail it in. You can send an e-mail or a PM (see two of the
buttons on the bottom of this post)--but in order to green light a book
we need to see a hard copy.
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Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:51 pm
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Matty wrote: |
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I have a
project that I am getting ready to submit to Image. I have six
pages of completed/letterd art, colored character designs,
pitch/cover letter, a completed colored cover, and other various
promotional bits.
The question is do I put this together into a promo comic -
stapled, printed the whole deal, or is it better just to put the
stuff into a folder. |
It makes no difference at all. Either way is fine.
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Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:58 pm
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milweskee wrote: |
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Exactly
what kind of feedback would I get if I sent a submission
proposal by e-mail first? I mean, do you give somewhat of a
'yes' or 'no' after reviewing online? |
You could get a--"That looks interesting--send it in" or a "that sucks
ass--don't waste my time."
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Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:01 pm
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Ellipsis wrote: |
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Is past
comics experience a factor in getting a book greenlit? |
It doesn't hurt, certainly, to have had experience but it won't
guarantee that you'll get an automatic green light in most cases. If
you're Frank Miller--okay, fine--but having done a back up story in an
issue of Detective Chimp doesn't carry as much weight.
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Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:17 am
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9chambers wrote: |
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Sorry if
this has been asked before. I read that Image charges a flat fee
for monthly comics of about XXXX an issue. Is it the same for
50, 100 or 500 page graphic novels? |
No.
For a graphic novel we charge a flat fee plus a percentage of the
profits. The reason is that books cost a lot more to print and that in
order to print them we're often out of pocket a LOT of money to begin
with and it can take a long time to break even. Even on successful
books. And, it can be expensive to keep books in print. A second or
third printing still requires Image spending a healthy chunk of change
to begin with and if we didn't
get a percentage there would be no incentive for us to do a second or
third printing. We'd have taken our initial fee and let it go at that.
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Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:19 pm
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3'LL wrote: |
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This is
just for personal interest and I don't know if you'd know the
answer.
It seems like comic costs are skyrocketing with glossy stock and
special stock papers being used. Has a creator ever reccomended
that their comic be printed on flat paper with a flat thicker
stock cover to save money (example: Jim Mahfood's Generation-X
Underground) and lower the cover price for the buyer? Would
Image be interested in publishing a book in this format to keep
costs down for the reader, or would a change in paper not make a
huge difference? |
It would not. Most printers can't even use newsprint and the price
difference, given the price breaks from buying paper in bulk, is
negligible. It's NOT the huge factor fans make it out to be.
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Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:19 pm
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Snafu wrote: |
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What if
your legal name is Frank Miller, but you're not THE Frank
Miller. Can you slip in on a technicality? |
No.
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